if i can't find out what colour i need to do my engine and accessories by the weekend i am taking my wifes cv8 ( god forbid ) i will never hear the end of it. one of the reasons i told her i was joining was that i could find out all sorts of tech info about my car. kel

Grumpy, I see - its now very serious - I cannot bear to see the humilation. Darryl is trying to find out the gold colour for you. I'll remind him of the fate coming your way soon, if he doesn';t get the colour. Eeek.