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#34632 - Thu 09 Aug 2007 03:02:PM UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes
Liski Offline

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Registered: Fri 15 Oct 2004
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Loc: UBI HQ
UBI are getting 4 channels from DigiTurk (Lig TV, PowerTurk, TurkMax and Show TV)

UBI have been in negoiations with DigiTurk regarding our contractual issues.

DigiTurk are requesting unreasonable fee for Lig TV which our subscribers would need to pay 4 times what they currently pay just to cover the Lig TV license costs, plus the costs to actually bring the channels from Turkey to Australia.

As a result of the failed negotiations because of DigiTurk's unreasonable and unfair expectations, several channel changes will be happening tonight:

- PowerTurk will no longer be avaliable in Australia - we have succesfully found an even better music channel replacement in Kral TV

- TurkMax will no longer be avaliable in Australia - we are in the advance stages of finialising a new contract with a premium Turkish movie channel to replace this

- Due to the breakdown in negotiations, DigiTurk have decided to unfairly switch off Show TV. UBI has an independent relationship with the Show TV Managing Director, who is challenging the actions of DigiTurk to resolve the situation immediatley. We hope Show TV will return within 72hrs

As a result we will stop charging customers for Lig TV and all custoemrs will be credited $9.95 if they have been billed/paid since 10/07/07

We will allow customers to terminate even if they are still in-contract term - they must send the request in writing.

Lig TV Q&A

Why is Lig TV no longer on UBI?
UBI has been negotiating for some time with DigiTurk for the rights to broadcast their channels in Australia. DigiTurk have demanded an unreasonable fee for these rights, which UBI does not want to pass onto its customers. As a result, on Thursday 9 August DigiTurk gave UBI 24 hours notice that to the signal of Lig TV, PowerTurk, TurkMax, and Show TV at midnight on Friday 10 August.

Why does UBI not pay DigiTurk what they want?
DigiTurk has asked for an unreasonable amount of money for the rights to their channels in Australia. They have shown they only care about money, and do not care about Turkish people in Australia who are passionate about soccer. The fact that they cut their signal with only 24 hours notice, given UBI no time to advise our customers and giving customers no chance to contact DigiTurk to explain their concerns, shows that DigiTurk do not care about Turkish people in Australia.

If UBI were to pay DigiTurk what they want, UBI would have to charge our customers at least 4 times the $9.95 we currently charge them to watch Lig TV. We believe our customers would not find this price fair, given the concerns they expressed when we asked them to pay only $9.95 for Lig TV. Furthermore, we do not think our customers should be paying an unreasonable price to watch the soccer they love.

What can the Turkish community in Australia do?
Firstly, they can express their frustration and disappointment directly to DigiTurk, and let them know that they believe they should be able to watch Lig TV for a fair price in Australia. Perhaps DigiTurk will listen to customers and decide they are willing to offer UBI a fair price for people in Australia to be able to watch Lig TV.

Secondly, if UBI finds that our customers are prepared to pay $40 for Lig TV instead of the $9.95 they currently pay, and that at least 3000 customers are willing to pay the $40, then we will gladly pay DigiTurk what they want and continue to bring Lig TV to our customers.

What about customers who just paid $9.95 for Lig TV?
UBI will credit all Lig TV customers the $9.95 they paid for Lig TV on their last bill. This credit will automatically apply to the customers next bill.

LINEUP CHANGES AS OF MIDNIGHT 10/08/07 ( CURRENT > NEW )
CH60 VIZYON > VIZYON (24HRS)
CH61 ATV > ATV
CH62 SHOW TV > ART CARD
CH63 EURO D > EURO D
CH64 EURO STAR > EURO STAR
CH65 NTV > NTV
CH66 LIG TV > PRESS CONFERENCE LOOP
CH67 POWERTURK > KRAL TV
CH68 TURKMAX > KANAL 7 (24 HRS)
CH69 STV > STV
CH70 TRT INT > TRT INT


Edited by Liski (Thu 09 Aug 2007 06:53:PM)
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#34634 - Thu 09 Aug 2007 03:14:PM Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes [Re: Liski]
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Thats very bad for Turkish Subsribers cant believe Digiturk would do this how greedy are these people to ask for $40 a month for LigTV cant believe this greedy buggers they are

Hopefully Show TV returns to UBI and be seperate from Digiturk group

Really bad news Digiturk should be ashamed of themselves...
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#34638 - Thu 09 Aug 2007 03:35:PM Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes [Re: LAZER]
HoRnEyDvL Offline
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Registered: Thu 23 Feb 2006
Posts: 19
Loc: The Home Of The Big Pineapple ...
Instead of been against UBI lets rally with them. Lets voice our frustration & disappointment To Digiturk.
LETS EMAIL THEM PHONE THEM LETS DO AS MUCH AS WE CAN.

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#34646 - Thu 09 Aug 2007 05:07:PM Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes [Re: HoRnEyDvL]
ShaRp Offline
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Registered: Mon 23 Aug 2004
Posts: 408
Loc: Sydney
CH69 STV > STB

what is STB ?

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#34648 - Thu 09 Aug 2007 05:13:PM Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes [Re: ShaRp]
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Im pretty sure thats a typo seeing as V and B are close together on the keyboard so STV remains the same...
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#34650 - Thu 09 Aug 2007 06:53:PM Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes [Re: LAZER]
Liski Offline

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Registered: Fri 15 Oct 2004
Posts: 1684
Loc: UBI HQ
Yep should be STV
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#34658 - Fri 10 Aug 2007 04:12:AM Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes [Re: Liski]
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Kral TV looks alot better then Powerturk smile
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#34670 - Fri 10 Aug 2007 02:59:PM Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes [Re: LAZER]
Liski Offline

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Registered: Fri 15 Oct 2004
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Loc: UBI HQ
I've been waiting for Kral TV for awhile now and after watching it all day it sure does give a better mixture of music.
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#34689 - Mon 13 Aug 2007 04:46:PM Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes [Re: Liski]
fsking Offline
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Registered: Thu 11 Nov 2004
Posts: 495
Loc: Sydney
I would like to share the following email just received from Digiturk....and would also like to discuss the current status of the Lig-TV issue as I was told by few ppl that its sold in public for $160.00 per year through internet...Any feedback is much appreciated...Thanks...

Sayin Faruk Karsanbas,

DIGITURK?un, Avustralya?da yayinlarinin iletimi konusunda calismakta
oldugu UBI Pty Ltd. ile anlasmasi 1 Agustos 2007 tarihi itibariyle
sona ermistir.

Kontrat gorusmelerinin devam etmesi sebebiyle yayina devam edilmis,
ancak ticari sartlar konusunda, bugune kadar oldugu gibi, tum iyi
niyetli yaklasimlarin korunmasina ragmen anlasma saglanamamis ve
yayinlarin iletimi 10.08.2007 tarihinde durdurulmustur.


Digiturk?un, cok yuksek ucret istedigi, ya da uyelik fiyatlarini
artirmak istedigi duyumlari gerçegi yansitmamaktadir. Uyelik
fiyatlari, fiyat artislari ve paket yapilari UBI Pty. Ltd.
tarafindan belirlenmistir. Digiturk?un, gelir artisi yillardir uyelik
sayisina paralel olarak belirlenmektedir, amac siz degerli
uyelerimize ilave maliyet getirmeksizin lokal operatorlerimizle gelir
paylasimi yapmaktir. Ancak tum cabalarimiza karsin, 2007-2008 sezonu
icin anlasma gerceklestirilememistir.

Siz degerli uyelerimize sundugumuz hizmetlerin kesintiye ugramamasi
icin cok daha uygun fiyatli bir alternatif sunmaktayiz. Dunya?nin her
yerinden oldugu gibi, Avustralya?dan da LigTV, ShowTV, Skyturk,
Powerturk ve Iz TV kanallarini internet uzerinden aylik 19,95 USD?den
baslayan fiyatlarla izleyebilirsiniz. Uye olmak için;
www.digiturkwebtv.com websitemizi ziyaret edebilirsiniz. Yuksek yayin
kalitesiyle size ulasmakta olan kanallarimizin sayisini sizlerden
gelecek taleplerle artirmayi hedeflemekteyiz.

Diger macralardan da DIGITURK yayinlarini size ulastirabilmek icin
Avustralya?daki diger servis saglayicilar ile gorusmeler devam
etmekte olup, en kisa surede alternatif yayin yontemlerinin sunulmasi
planlanmaktadir.

Anlayisiniz icin tesekkur eder, saygilarimizi sunariz.

Saygilarimizla,
DIGITURK Musteri Hizmetleri
Tel:0212 473 73 73
Fax:0212 473 73 03
Mailto:destek@digiturk.com.tr


>Bizler, Guzel ulkemizden cok uzaklarda yasamakta olan, UBI World TV
nin
>katkilari ile yayinlanan LIG TV sayesinde, renk askimizi, ozlemimizi
bir nebze
>olsun hafifleten programinizin, yayindan kaldirilisini buyuk uzuntu
ve
>kirginlikla yasamis bulunmaktayiz.
>UBI CEO su yayin iptali icin DigiTurk un asiri yuksek ucret
istekleri oldugunu
>acikladi. Bu yayin iptali konusunda bizleri aydinlatirsaniz cok
memnun oluruz.
>Saygilarimizla,
>Faruk Karsanbas
>Sydney, Australia
>
>
>



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DIGITURK bu mesajin icerdigi bilgilerin dogrulugu veya eksiksiz oldugu konusunda herhangi bir garanti vermemektedir. Bu nedenle bu bilgilerin ne sekilde olursa olsun iceriginden, iletilmesinden, alinmasindan ve saklanmasindan sorumlu degildir. Bu mesajdaki görüsler yalnizca gönderen kisiye aittir ve DIGITURK' un görüslerini yansitmayabilir

Bu e-posta bilinen bütün bilgisayar virüslerine karsi taranmistir.

*

This e-mail and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you are not the intended recipient you are hereby notified that any dissemination, forwarding, copying or use of any of the information is strictly prohibited, and the e-mail should immediately be deleted.

DIGITURK makes no warranty as to the accuracy or completeness of any information contained in this message and hereby excludes any liability of any kind for the information contained therein or for the information transmission, reception, storage or use of such in any way whatsoever. The opinions expressed in this message belong to sender alone and may not necessarily reflect the opinions of DIGITURK .

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#34690 - Mon 13 Aug 2007 04:51:PM Re: UBI vs DigiTurk - Turkish Package Changes [Re: Liski]
Eren Offline
Astronaut Level 1

Registered: Fri 27 Jul 2007
Posts: 31
Loc: QLD
This is an e-mail that I've recieved from Digiturk Customer Services word for word.....

Sayin Eren,

DIGITURK?un, Avustralya?da yayinlarinin iletimi konusunda calismakta oldugu UBI Pty Ltd. ile anlasmasi 1 Agustos 2007 tarihi itibariyle sona ermistir.

Kontrat gorusmelerinin devam etmesi sebebiyle yayina devam edilmis, ancak ticari sartlar konusunda, bugune kadar oldugu gibi, tum iyi niyetli yaklasimlarin korunmasina ragmen anlasma saglanamamis ve yayinlarin iletimi 10.08.2007 tarihinde durdurulmustur.


Digiturk?un, cok yuksek ucret istedigi, ya da uyelik fiyatlarini artirmak istedigi duyumlari gerçegi yansitmamaktadir. Uyelik fiyatlari, fiyat artislari ve paket yapilari UBI Pty. Ltd.
tarafindan belirlenmistir. Digiturk?un, gelir artisi yillardir uyelik sayisina paralel olarak belirlenmektedir, amac siz degerli uyelerimize ilave maliyet getirmeksizin lokal operatorlerimizle gelir paylasimi yapmaktir. Ancak tum cabalarimiza karsin, 2007-2008 sezonu icin anlasma gerceklestirilememistir.

Diger macralardan da DIGITURK yayinlarini size ulastirabilmek icin Avustralya?daki diger servis saglayicilar ile gorusmeler devam etmekte olup, en kisa surede alternatif yayin yontemlerinin sunulmasi planlanmaktadir.

Anlayisiniz icin tesekkur eder, saygilarimizi sunariz.

Saygilarimizla,

FIGEN UCAKCIOGLU

DIGITURK Musteri Hizmetleri
Tel:0212 473 73 73
Fax:0212 473 73 03
Mailto:destek@digiturk.com.tr

English:
Dear Eren,
The contract we have had with UBI Pty LTD has ended on 1st of August 2007.
Due to the reasons of negotiating of the contract, the broadcast resumed normally, but due to business reasons, even though we have tried
our best to get this contract to happen, the broadcast ended on 10.08.2007.
As to us (Digiturk) asking for more money, rising member fees are entirely not true. Member fees, rise of fees and making of packages are
entirely in the hands of UBI Pty. Ltd. The yearly income are risen on the amount of members that have been added on. Although what ever did
to get the Turkish community to get these channels, the broadcasting of the 2007-2008 season could not have to come an agreement.
We are trying our best to get these and other sport channels back to you in Australia via other servicing companies. Very soon, we will have
those channels broadcasted by another carrier.
Thank you


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