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Tv Polonia will start in about 10-15 days on GlobeCast platform 12564/30000,then it will be encrypted in mid June. $ 45.00 plus GST per month and you have to buy new receiver $205. Sounds very expensive for one channel. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" />

WOW <img border="0" title="" alt="[Eek!]" src="images/icons/default/shocked.gif" /> That's a rip off !!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" />

maybe they are somehow connected to TV Minus? :-D

yeh it is abit steep for one channel i guess the armenian channel ppl are only wanting to charge $35 a month for it but $45 is getting abit out of hand just for one channel i see alot of small operators are coming out now offering 1 - 4 channels on there platform and charging an unfair amount for it do u have anymore info kloss such as a website or sumthin? [ 26. April 2005, 06:40 AM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]

That is outragous for one channel, you know the more the days pass the more tarbs looked like a fair to good pay tv company, I was only told yesterday by my nephew he said you get these channels for free by using a Satellite box called dream something I don't understand what he ment but he said something about one pays and the rest get it for nothing but how can they do it when everyone is miles apart. Has anyone heard of the above or is this just bull or is it true can something be done like this and if so can it be done with tv plus.

@Confused this is called Cardsharing and can be done using dreambox recievers and a continous internet connection <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> which shares the card details with everyone u share ur card with <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> so being miles apart doesnt matter all u need is the right equipment and be able to recieve the signal that u want and then the card details get sent thru the internet to everyone who is on ur network and allow them to share the primary card [ 26. April 2005, 08:05 AM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]

Did someone say....my name?! Lazer, the card sharing expert! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> Vlad...

u taught me everything i know about this CS stuff <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> u would know more about this <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Confused: That is outragous for one channel, you know the more the days pass the more tarbs looked like a fair to good pay tv company, I was only told yesterday by my nephew he said you get these channels for free by using a Satellite box called dream something I don't understand what he ment but he said something about one pays and the rest get it for nothing but how can they do it when everyone is miles apart. Has anyone heard of the above or is this just bull or is it true can something be done like this and if so can it be done with tv plus. <hr /></blockquote>Yes confused what your are saying is 100% correct. Cardsharing is rife for every pay tv company in Australia except for UBI as you cannot Cardshare the UBI mentor system. Most young people are computer smart these days and understand FULLY networking and will have no trouble doing it, its the GREED of pay tv companies that feeds piracy and this is the reason why some go to the lengths of doing it. This is not a piracy forum but there are others, just go to GOOGLES and type Dreambox and spend hours reading, YOU WILL GET A SHOCK!!

According to the Polish SBS radio on the weekend the company running TV Polonia will be Puma Media.. Their website will be www.pumamedia.com.au and www.tvpolonia.com.au.. Note both websites havent started yet... will be on online in the next week or so.. $45 for one channel does sound ridiculous.. It looks like the duds in Tv Polonia back in Warsaw decided to pick another winner yet again.. Loosers.....

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Dark Lord: $45 for one channel does sound ridiculous..<hr /></blockquote>It makes Foxtel sound like it is good value for money !

In the USA which Globecast also sell TVP there it cost $28USD a month which is about $36 AUD a month and u get 2 polish channels plus 2 radio channels this price sounds better then $45 a month for 1 channel <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> http://www.globecastwtv.com/ch_tvp_package.htm [ 26. April 2005, 08:43 AM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]

And some had a hide to complain about TARBS. TARBS looks rosy compared to what's happening around the Pay Tv seen at the moment, like I said months ago you will be paying $99 per month for 6 to 8 channels soon if you let them get away with it.They have to slug you to survive but remember there is a saying "Don't kill the goose that lays the golden egg" because this is what they are doing. Value for money is UBI at the moment Arabic people can get 21 channels for just over $60, Turks are getting 8 channels for the same amount, but some companies will be charging you $99 for 8 channels and that is on the nose.

found some info on the registration of www.pumamedia.com.au and www.tvpolonia.com.au also if u check out www.pumafilm.com they seem to be the ones that have organised all this the are based in Victoria maybe an email to them might give ppl more info about what is going to happen to TV POLONIA domain registration info for pumamedia.com.au Domain Name: pumamedia.com.au Last Modified: Never Updated Registrar ID: R00053-AR Registrar Name: IntaServe Status: OK Registrant: FLORIDA PARK UNIT TRUST Registrant ID: ABN 18781804924 Registrant ROID: C1901792-AR Registrant Contact Name: Ted M****** Registrant Email: ted@pumafilm.com Tech ID: C1901792-AR Tech Name: Ted M****** Tech Email: ted@pumafilm.com Name Server: dns6.intaserve.net Name Server: dns7.intaserve.net and for tvpolonia.com.au Domain Name: tvpolonia.com.au Last Modified: Never Updated Registrar ID: R00053-AR Registrar Name: IntaServe Status: OK Registrant: FLORIDA PARK PTY LTD Registrant ID: Registrant ROID: C1901792-AR Registrant Contact Name: Ted M******* Registrant Email: ted@pumafilm.com Tech ID: C1901792-AR Tech Name: Ted M******* Tech Email: ted@pumafilm.com Name Server: dns6.intaserve.net Name Server: dns7.intaserve.net [ 26. April 2005, 10:52 AM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]

Sent an email to them this morning havent got a reply as yet will keep ppl posted as soon as I get somethin.. It would appear as though Pumafilm import Polish Movies to Australia and are now just about to start getting into TV/Sat. Hence the high price for Transmition.. Small company means big bucks for one channel.. They are also promising one 24 hour Radio channel directly from Warsaw.. Standby to standby

Phill of course nobody cardshares UBI its not necessary the box modification is well known. I'm just trying to find out if it will be on globecasts 12564H transponder or B3 12658. If on 12564H no good to NZ.

OK here is an update.. Just received an email from Puma media director.. Apart from promising to get the feed in the country within the next 10 - 15 days he has also given me some more info.. First few weeks will be FTA. Settings as Follows: B3 Sat Transponder13 Freq 12564 Symb 30000 2/3 Horizontal. This means you can use your old TARBS box.. Ok that should be the easy step.. Now most of us know how to realign Ae's However they are willing to provide a service for $66-$110 for realingment(a bit expensive). Once the Scrambled service starts in June(IRDETO 2, I assume) a new decoder will have to be purchased. The price you ask. $320 with smart card supplied.. If you dont have the old tarbs package they will also give you a 85cm dish and cable and intall it for ya for $450 plus gst... The monthly rate will be $45. Currently the line up is TVP and Polish radio Jedynka. They are looking at organizing another TV Channel later on in the year as yet unclear which one.. I'm assuming TVP3 thats what USA has.. Hopefully this helps.. The Websites will come on line probably next week however, always a however... They have only received confirmation that they have the contact.. The contact has as yet not been signed by the Directors in Poland.. The 10-15 may drag on.......

i guess this means NZ misses out again as there goin to use 12564 H 30000

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by apsattv: Phill of course nobody cardshares UBI its not necessary the box modification is well known. <hr /></blockquote>Yes but there are more Dream boxes than the Mentor box.

Guys, More information you can see here (unfortunately in Polish): http://members.iinet.net.au/~kurier/tv_polonia_1.html I think $45 and one channel is a rip off. They say something about another channel but it is still very expensive. Cheers Boggie

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by apsattv: Phill of course nobody cardshares UBI its not necessary the box modification is well known. I'm just trying to find out if it will be on globecasts 12564H transponder or B3 12658. If on 12564H no good to NZ. <hr /></blockquote>Yes but as you know most of the cardsharing going around the guys doing it don't even bother watching it, some guys just do it for the fun of doing it. It makes me laugh as i have friends C/S austar and they are on ICQ talking to me most off the time. I tell them why aren't you watching free tv, answer nothing but shit on tonight!!

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Big Chief: <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by apsattv: Phill of course nobody cardshares UBI its not necessary the box modification is well known. <hr /></blockquote>Yes but there are more Dream boxes than the Mentor box. <hr /></blockquote>Yes I can tell you this, most Pirates in Melbourne are still KICKING themselves why?? because when TARBS died with some help these pirates got the shits and dumped the boxes to the tip by the boot load. They never expected UBI to pop up and to use the same boxes again, yes you are correct a very limited supply of TARBS/UBI boxes floating around, as for Dreamboxes they are a dime a dozen [ 26. April 2005, 06:04 PM: Message edited by: P Debono ]

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Boggie: Guys, More information you can see here (unfortunately in Polish): http://members.iinet.net.au/~kurier/tv_polonia_1.html I think $45 and one channel is a rip off. They say something about another channel but it is still very expensive. Cheers Boggie <hr /></blockquote>$45 (plus GST) for one channel even with added radio station is a rip off. Most expensive paytv in Australia. But recalling TARBS times it was $62.95 basically also for one channel. TV Polonia was the only Polish channel in the line up. This was why they had only ca 1000 customers. There was voices here that polish channels if groupped with eg. russian could make quite a package. The reality is polish language is not that related with russian as all balkan lingos. You could group all serbian, croatian, bosnian, macedonian, bulgarian in one and they would all be happy. They all understand these languages. Russian would probably be closer to those balkans than it is to Polish (not only by similar alphabet of most of them). So in TARBS times TV Polonia was the only channel watchable and understood by an average Polish viewer. $62 for one ch was a giant rip off. But still $45+gst... I don't think they'll get too much further than 1000 customers... Just wonder how long they will last.

I totally agree with you Georgepie.The only way to go is get Pol-Sat and TVN plus TV Polonia together and you have descent package which will attract for sure more then 1000 customers TARBS had. This is something UBI should look at.

Ive been talking to a friend of mine in poland, he said TV polonia is one of the worst channels in poland. He said it should be FTA everywhere and when i told him the price they were offering it here for he couldnt believe it.

Yes I have heard the same from the TARBS days, but TV Poland is one of the only Sat channels available.

Man this package is a joke.....over 7 months of waiting for this..... They should have combined polish channels with russian - i watched both, and many of my polish and russian friends also watched both. Many polish people do speak russian, and they had more than 1 channel for the 62 bucks. I don't think they will get the 1000 customers this time - i was one of them but prob will not b joining with this rip off. I prefer joining MyTV - 6 channels for the same price...

Can you get NSS 6

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Edward: Man this package is a joke.....over 7 months of waiting for this..... They should have combined polish channels with russian - i watched both, and many of my polish and russian friends also watched both. Many polish people do speak russian, and they had more than 1 channel for the 62 bucks. I don't think they will get the 1000 customers this time - i was one of them but prob will not b joining with this rip off. I prefer joining MyTV - 6 channels for the same price... <hr /></blockquote>Mate, I'm trying to make them understand these languages are not close at all so they don't think they can make us happy giving us 1 polish channel (with those few russian)for the same price as eg. arabs pay for their 20+ arabic ones. You here are trying to look smart. You and maybe many of your friends speak russian but most of polish people don't. I don't, all my friends who had TARBS don't. They were paying $62.95 for one channel only. They never watched any other channels because they did not understand. Phil, what you are stating is very incorrect. Just look here http://www.lyngsat.com/freetv/Poland.html. These are all fta's available over Europe. Some of them are rather not worth to be brought over here but there is a few quite good ones. There is also a whole heap of scrambled channels owned by pay tv's.

Guys, Would not be nice to have...Polsat (all channels), TVN (all channels), MTV Poland, HBO...upps - I am dreaming... 1000 customers...I can gamble on that the new offer will not attract "such big number" of poor (should say reach) bastards. Russian channels...I learnt this language for many years and can not understand a word (or maybe a few..) I will set my dish to Optus and I will watch it as long as it is free...and will wait for more valuable package (if it will come at all) Cheers Boggie

I don't think it really matters how many people speak russian or not - although you would be surprised. Most of the people who do speak Polish are the ones who came here from poland during the communist era, and they speak polish and russian, while the new generation doesn't really know polish that well anyway. Nevertheless, it doesn't make a difference. What I was saying, was that they should put the Polish channels together with russian - in other words TV Plus should get the contract. They already have a whole heap of channels, and customers and are more likely not to go bankrupt after a few months than a small polish company like - Puma Media. The bigger companies would be able to get more channels, while its obvious that such a small company was not able to negotiate anything more than one channel. I realy find it hard to imagine that Puma Media will get more than 1000 customers, which is a shame - as there are at least 40,000 polish speaking people in australia.

"in other words TV Plus should get the contract. They already have a whole heap of channels, and customers and are more likely not to go bankrupt after a few months" HAHA. Whole heap of channels? Are you serious? They got 5-6 channels. And I beleive they have different contracts for Serbian, Bosnian and Russian TV. They will go bankcrupt before UBI will.

Some more nfo from the Polish Kurier website.. looks like Its all a go. The two websites are almost ready and when you go to them you get a web test page.. Updates on the prices show that the decoder from Puma media will be $205.. It doesnt say if that price includes the smart card.. It does state that the old TARBS boxes (MDS)will not function with the new system even when its free to air.. Hard to beleive since I have a 3110 and I can get FTA no problems.. Maybe its only 3100 that have the trouble. Either way unless you have a smart card cabale receiver be ready to pay.. Once they scramble.. They are recommending 85cm dish but I use 65 and have no troubles getting globecast channels.. Now something intersting that is being stated is that they recommend you use their decoder however if you have your own they will not supply you with any technical help if anything goes wrong.. This eppears to mean that you can use any COT STB as long as its smart card capable.. Does that mean that you may only have to get a smart card from them???? Either way having told many of my Polish friends about it it looks like not many are interested if its only 1 channel... Looks like TVP may only be back temporarly unless the Package can get something better thrown in...

You never own the card with any services. AS to the signal level they are using an H pol frequency which is a different beam to the dual Aus/NZ one the Globecast use.

both www.tvpolonia.com.au and www.pumamedia.com.au seems to be up and running now but most of it is in polish to what i can understand on the site it says TV Polonia and some radio station will start on May 15th on OPTUS B3 12564 H 30000 [ 30. April 2005, 03:51 PM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]

Any Updates on when the transmition starts... The 15 of May is actually when the Online TV Program Guide runs out.....

ide say it should start soon then cause whats the use of the guide being up when the channels havent started yet <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> [ 02. May 2005, 08:51 AM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]

Yeah Thats what we were trying to work out on Friday night... Why would they put up the Schedule and not pump out the signal?? Makes no sense... Anyone try emailing them??? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" />

I emailed them and got this from the Company... It looks like Globecast are testing the signal now and should be transmitting it as early as Thursday this week.. Fingers Crossed... If things go wrong it could drag into next week... But They assure me it looks good for this Weekend... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

Ok. Now TV Polonia is so close I need to clarify something on my setup. All transponders on B3 are on my FTA STB on full blast, 99% quality. This transponder (12564, 30000 H)is on 99% in the morning then slowly drops in strength to a complete zero after 5 pm. Then around 9.30 pm starts coming back to life and at the moment 10.00 pm is at 35% (watchable) and climbing. Is anyone getting the same? It has been like this since this tp started with TVN, TVK, Telepace. I live in Melbourne. Any tips welcome.

Twisted lnb tonight in all directions, no change.

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by georgiepie: Twisted lnb tonight in all directions, no change. <hr /></blockquote>No clouds around that time? I lived in Melbourne, thick clouds can make something like that. Even if they're far away from you... Other thing is condensation at LNB. Can occur at early evening and early mornings... [ 03. May 2005, 02:59 PM: Message edited by: YU4CFG ]

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by georgiepie: Ok. Now TV Polonia is so close I need to clarify something on my setup. All transponders on B3 are on my FTA STB on full blast, 99% quality. This transponder (12564, 30000 H)is on 99% in the morning then slowly drops in strength to a complete zero after 5 pm. Then around 9.30 pm starts coming back to life and at the moment 10.00 pm is at 35% (watchable) and climbing. Is anyone getting the same? It has been like this since this tp started with TVN, TVK, Telepace. I live in Melbourne. Any tips welcome. <hr /></blockquote>i have the same problem here with that transponder very stroung during the day and at night pretty weak but stil watchable using a 90cm here and i can watch it no problem just the signal goes up and down during different times of the day

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by YU4CFG: <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by georgiepie: Twisted lnb tonight in all directions, no change. <hr /></blockquote>No clouds around that time? I lived in Melbourne, thick clouds can make something like that. Even if they're far away from you... Other thing is condensation at LNB. Can occur at early evening and early mornings... sorry meant to press quote <hr /></blockquote>i dnt think it has anything to do with ppl's setup's if u take a look for urself u will see at different times of the day different signals like during the day its very stroung and at night its like half the signal

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by georgiepie: Ok. Now TV Polonia is so close I need to clarify something on my setup. All transponders on B3 are on my FTA STB on full blast, 99% quality. This transponder (12564, 30000 H)is on 99% in the morning then slowly drops in strength to a complete zero after 5 pm. Then around 9.30 pm starts coming back to life and at the moment 10.00 pm is at 35% (watchable) and climbing. Is anyone getting the same? It has been like this since this tp started with TVN, TVK, Telepace. I live in Melbourne. Any tips welcome. <hr /></blockquote>Maybe there was a big turttle on your roof <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> Vlad...

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by -.Lazer.-: <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by YU4CFG: <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by georgiepie: Twisted lnb tonight in all directions, no change. <hr /></blockquote>No clouds around that time? I lived in Melbourne, thick clouds can make something like that. Even if they're far away from you... Other thing is condensation at LNB. Can occur at early evening and early mornings... sorry meant to press quote <hr /></blockquote>i dnt think it has anything to do with ppl's setup's if u take a look for urself u will see at different times of the day different signals like during the day its very stroung and at night its like half the signal <hr /></blockquote>Thanks Lazer. Looks like my 70cm may not be up to it if it stays like this. YU4CFG, It has been like this for ca 2 months - since this tp started. In summer we don't get condensation in Melbourne - the air is bone dry even at nights and early mornings. It (reception on this tp) actually gets better at night. As you probably know we haven't had much rain here this year, rarely get heavy clouds and no... no big turtle(?) on my roof. I was just hoping for some impressions from someone from here and, as me with 70cm dish.

Anyone out there have contacts with Globecast?? Ive tried contacting them about when the signal may happen but havent got a single response from them.. Stuck up snots... Anyone heard anything new??

Yes, I heard...It is planed to start this Friday. The source of this information is quite reliable...

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Boggie: Yes, I heard...It is planed to start this Friday. The source of this information is quite reliable... <hr /></blockquote><img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> This wouldn't happen to be the famous MBC channel currently screening?? Is the source from Globecast or Pemamedia?? Either way excellent.. We cant wait to catch up on some of the shows... Were only like 10 months behind <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" />

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> Well Friday is here and TVP is not... Maybe Sat, or Sun , Or Mon etc etc ......The Tension......

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> Ok enough waiting... Just chatted to the Pumamedia director on the bat phone.. Got some intersting info.. The signal will be starting tonight!! Tomorrow Morning at the latest. It will be FTA for at least two months.. Tarbs boxes are useless, as we know UBI has rendered them a boat anchor.. The package for a new Box with card will be $320. The encryption will be Irdeto-1. They will sell the card only option for $55 however be aware no warranty on if it will work with your current STB will be given. Monthly charge $49.. The STB info is that its a Globecast designed box called a Sonicbox PGTV500. "Sonicbox PGTV 500 is the new decoder that has been designed specifically for the Globecast/PanGlobal platforms and has the Globecast Customer Key software contained within. This software allows Globecast/PanGlobal to send software updates from the satellite directly to the box without the customer doing a thing. The software has been custom designed for Australia and New Zealand and is extremely easy to use. It is 100% Korean made and it is an extremely reliable box that can be used for both Commercial and Residential purposes. " So there you have it.. People wanting the Polish will again have to buy a custom designed box that preumably will be able to receive other FTA and not only TVP. Has anyone heard of these PGTV500's... If so how similar are they to the Humax 5410z.. I happen to have one and was wondering if the card option is the way to go...??

Irdeto 1 hhhhmmmmm.... not very secure <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> wonder why they have chosen Irdeto 1 over Irdeto 2 which is more newer and most Aus pay tv providers are using that now ..? [ 06. May 2005, 10:51 AM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]

<img border="0" title="" alt="[Embarrassed]" src="images/icons/default/blush.gif" /> Tried googling for the box info... It looks like the box is Irdeto-2 not 1... I think the Boss of Puma media has been given crap info... The box is actually Irdeto2... Which will keep the dreamers happy. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> Anyway sorry about that I thought he would know the diff between 1 and 2.. Loks like his just a businessman after all.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Dark Lord: Looks like his just a businessman after all.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>hehehe yep thats what i was thinking <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

most likely this company will be doing the installs and supply of boxes and etc for Tv Polonia as they do most Globecast stuff as there the preferred installer http://www.aaacom.com.au/index.php

what is the polish population in australia?

Aust stats office says about 150,000 ......

Dark Lord... I got email from Puma director and decoder (Sonicbox) is $205 with smartcard. If you want just the card its $55.

Wow. Looks like this tp has been fixed. Full signal now (at the time when it was normally 0, till yesterday). Something is in the air !!??

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by kloss: Dark Lord... I got email from Puma director and decoder (Sonicbox) is $205 with smartcard. If you want just the card its $55. <hr /></blockquote>Maybe the 320 was with a dish and Cables <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> I'm sure he said $320.. Ah well $205 sounds good..... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> Well look at the time its now Saturday and still no TVP... I too have noticed that T13 is now twice as strong.. Lets hope the signal comes up today..

i saw an Info Card early in the morning on the Ad Hoc channel 12525 V 30000 at about 3:30am this morning and it had the Puma Media and TVP Logo's on it and it said Programming will commence on the 18th of May i didt take a screen shot of it but it was there now its gone it should show it again today

here is a screen shot the Info Card is back on <img src="http://www.geocities.com/colossos83/TVP.jpg" alt=" - " /> [ 07. May 2005, 09:34 AM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]

crap... Bunch of lying scum... They said this weekend..... Never trust a salesman....

well the program guide on there site wont be much use then as they wont start broadcasting til the 18th now <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" />

i'll call them on monday and express my feelings <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

I watched this sat when I was in europe...There are some goodies not to be missed...

Iwas watching Ad hoc last night around midnight It had english soccer on it... Is this channel active only some times???? An what do they screen??

just like a feeds channel shows various things at different times of the day sports news events etc <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

Bummer no set timetable.... The soccer last night was good...... Cheers Lazer

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Dark Lord: Bummer no set timetable.... The soccer last night was good...... Cheers Lazer <hr /></blockquote>Check ur PM Dark Lord <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

Any hints on what else can be found and at what times... Ive tried googling for it but to no avail... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" />

ITN News from the UK is on just about every morning between 7am and 9am it usually shows it various other things on it also just depends

So its like a feed channel? I guess... I remember being up in the NT once on a cool camping trip, this guy had a Sat Tv setup in his caravan and he was getting all sorts of feeds going between East and West Autralia... It was cool watching the same program twice a day <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> Had to be there <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> Ah the things you remember.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> Hey Lazer what STB do you use.. Does your automatically tell you when a new channel pops up?? Or do you have some sort of Multi screen setup on your pc.. I was looking at some PC Cards that display 16 Channels on the one window.. Ever heard of them...

yes its a feed channel anything could show up on it i have a few blind scan recievers and a few other boxes also some are hooked up to the computer and some just hooked to the tv havent used pci cards much i guess u could preview a few channels at once yeh the channels u were proberly watching were proberly channels from different states hence why u were able to watch things twice a day those channels are on Optus C1 and is called the Aurora Service its for ppl who dnt have access to normal terrestrial tv

Here is the cards I was looking at http://www.mrgadget.com.au/catalog/...?osCsid=c6b28df9d48287b75bc6a3eb765053b8 They look like a cheap alternate for getting a sat receiver as well as a TV Capture card... Kill two birds with one stone..

yeh i was going to get one of them but heard they werent that good heard that they overheat and also the signal u get has to be stroung otherwise the card will have problems getting anything and forget about running a moteck on it no chance

Thanks for that you just saved me some dough <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> Ah well it looks like I have to start saving up to become a dreamer <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> . Damn Im stilled peeved off at TVP not being active... I really wanted to catch up with the some of the serials... Ah well .. S$%T happens... Thanks for the info will stand by for updates on TVP..

The Polonia website now has a TV schedule that goes till the end of the Month... Also a new notice has appeard showing that it will start broadcasting 18th Of may at the latest.... Maybe it should read 18th of Jun maybe 18th of JuL Maybe 18th etc etc etc.. Starting to sound like the Spanish Channels Forum.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

i don't know but i got a feeling that this company won't last for long. Puma Media is a sister company of Puma Press a company that 'imports' polish movies and organises polish concerts. They are not that huge, and I have no clue where they will get the money to run this business, which I believe is not that cheap. But then, if they go bankrupt, then I doubt TVP will sign a contract with any other company in Australia again...I think we are in a loose/loose situation here....

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Edward: They are not that huge, and I have no clue where they will get the money to run this business, which I believe is not that cheap. <hr /></blockquote>why do you think there charging $45 a month for it

Thats why UBI have the upper hand here if they can get Polsat and Polsat 2.... Almost every Polish speaking person would choose UBI... Anyone from UBI listening ???? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

If UBI can get Polsat/Polsat2 or TVN they will have for sure many customers. No need to buy new decoder just re-position the dish and you set to go. So c'mon UBI! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

Further info on the TVP signal which was suppose to start this weekend.. Apparently Globecast pushed back the start date to the 18 due to losses in TX.. From and internal source in Puma Ive managed to find out that they are using three Satellites to get their feed. Two over Europe and one over USA.. They are haveing troubles with signal droputs and didnt want the public watching a signal that keeps dropping in and out.. This may have cut down on some of their customers confidence in the feed.. (Sales People, You have to lov them <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> ) So They have come up with the 18th.. Personally I wouldnt care about the dropouts but thats just me... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/default/cool.gif" /> I still want to to know how they can predict the 18th as being a good time to start.. What is Venus alligned with Pluto and the solar Activity is very low.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" />

Check this link out... http://www.allied-media.com/ETHNICTV/polish.htm If only we had 1,000,000 in one city like they do in chicago... We too could probably come up with something like this rather than 30 minutes a day of absolute crap on SCTV which you need to subscribe to UBI to get.. And dont get me started on that one cause how do you get SCTV when you need to subscribe to UBI and how do you subscribe to UBI when they dont offer the Polish package just yet.. And even if you do get them to rezap your you box.. Once your one week is up the bloody thing will IRD Disable itself again... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> Watching SCTV with my Humax makes you wonder who the hell programmes the contents... So far its been showing shows form the 40's and documentries on churches... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> The station form Sydney is a joke..... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/default/tongue.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/default/tongue.gif" />

SCTV can be viewed with any box without subscription all u need is a FTA box and dish they are only on the UBI freq but aren't part of any package they are a community channel which means the content would be sub standard due to costs all comes down to costs they are providing everyone with a free service [ 10. May 2005, 09:20 AM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Dark Lord: Check this link out... http://www.allied-media.com/ETHNICTV/polish.htm If only we had 1,000,000 in one city like they do in chicago... We too could probably come up with something like this rather than 30 minutes a day of absolute crap on SCTV which you need to subscribe to UBI to get.. And dont get me started on that one cause how do you get SCTV when you need to subscribe to UBI and how do you subscribe to UBI when they dont offer the Polish package just yet.. And even if you do get them to rezap your you box.. Once your one week is up the bloody thing will IRD Disable itself again... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> Watching SCTV with my Humax makes you wonder who the hell programmes the contents... So far its been showing shows form the 40's and documentries on churches... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> The station form Sydney is a joke..... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/default/tongue.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/default/tongue.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>Please get you facts correct before posting such rubbish. Everyone can view SCTV, it you are using a TARBS/UBI box and its blocked out and the Box is not yours then bad luck, but like I said before if you legally bought the TARBS box UBI should not be allowed to block it and if they have you should have the right to show a copy of the receipt of the box and be switched on again to watch SCTV or any other FTA channel on UBI. Yes SCTV might be showing some crap but do you expect them to show the latest and the greatest on this free service? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" />

Like I wrote in my previous posts... I BOUGH THE BOX... And Yes I do have the receipt.. And UBI will unlock it for ya if you ring and talk to the right people.. However if you leave it tuned to UBI on B3 then it will recode itself a few days later..As many people have found out... Its no RUBBISH its a fact..

And just incase here is the info from the SCTV website which is as follows: "If you are interested in watching SCTV along with the 40 other multilingual channels available on UBI WORLD TV, you will need a UBI-compatible receiver and a satellite dish pointed to Optus B3, and subscribe to UBI WORLD TV." "If you are specifically interested in SCTV only, you will need a free-to-air receiver and a satellite dish pointed to Optus B3 (you will have access to all FTA channels available on that satellite, but will not be able to watch any UBI WORLD TV channels except TRT and ERT)" Yes it says you can use any other STb however why should people have to buy a new STB.. I luckily have one but many don"t.. Thats all I'm trying to say.. I'm not having a go at anyone its just unfair for other people out there that have a good receiver that cant be used... Like my Uncle, My father and my 2 cousins...... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" />

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Dark Lord: Like I wrote in my previous posts... I BOUGH THE BOX... And Yes I do have the receipt.. And UBI will unlock it for ya if you ring and talk to the right people.. However if you leave it tuned to UBI on B3 then it will recode itself a few days later..As many people have found out... Its no RUBBISH its a fact.. <hr /></blockquote>Have you told this to UBI?

I rang Ubi On monday and was told to retune again after giving my details they will unblock it.. However they will recode it after a week. The only way to stop this is (THEY SAID)is to not tune to any UBI freqs.. Apart from buying a package and not filling in the contract I cant see any other options..

Hey Lazer... Is Ad Hoc doing anything intersting today... It looks like the MBC channel looked before it went to live TX.. Could this be the new TVP signal.. They have dropped the ad now??? Very interesting

no those color bars are always there unless something is on like a feed or sumthin look out for tvp on 12564 H 30000 the next few days something should come up unless there is more delays <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" />

thanks buddy, Ill rescan tonight.. Getting sick of only getting the same 4 channels.. COming up with the scans.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> The waiting sux...

God damn im not happy... Got told I have go away with work for 2 weeks.. Starting tomorrow..noooooooooooo The broadcast starts Wed... what a sh&^ty coincidence <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" /> Maybe I should call in sick..... :0

i really doubt tv polonia starting tomorrow as there should of been a test channel up by now anyway will see how they go

yeah i reckon too... Anyway have to go now.. Will see what happens in two weeks when i come back...

new channel has come up on 12564 but it aint TVP channel ID says SETANTA SPORTS but nothing showing on it yet just a blank screen [ 18. May 2005, 07:55 AM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]

can u print the picture lazer

as i said its showing a blank screen just black do u want to see a black screen? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" />

i thought it is open anyway i think it's a polonian channel. what u think

thx anyway but not needed anyway

It has started broadcasting FTA

Very good quality <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img src="http://www.geocities.com/colossos83/tvp1.jpg" alt=" - " /> <img src="http://www.geocities.com/colossos83/tvp2.jpg" alt=" - " /> [ 18. May 2005, 01:14 PM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]

does anyone know if you can view this signal with the old 3100 tarbs box?

it should work try it <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> [ 05. June 2005, 05:17 PM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]

how exactly? went in changed the freq to 12525, SR to 30000, Horiz polarisation then went to remap channels.. and it sits there now saying: Seeking Signal 11300000, 12407100, 030000, Vertical now receiving PAT... i really dont know what i'm doing but i'm guessing that i need to tell it to map its stations from the main signal at 12525 even though Polonia is at 12564 (apparently).. ??

try 12564 H 30000

i set transponder to 12564 H 30000 then did "remap channels" and it came up with loading NIT table... now receiving NIT actual... then that was it. its still set at channel 69 (polonia under tarbs)

ok proberly wont work then

the new channel on 12564 H 30000 is still black and still her name setant does anyone knows what this channel going to be ? any one

ekhazen5 - what's your decoder. On that frequncy you should recieve a few channels and don't think there is anything "black"

i rfeceive some channels on that frequency but i got one chnnel called setant. does anyone know what is that channel

I'm back.. TVP looks cool great quality... Cant get the radio channel though...

cause there is no radio yet <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" />

UBI dosen`t beleive the radio broadcasting aswell (Show tv has best radio in Turkey"Show Radio" we got the tv not radio, why?) is it too hard to put on transponder which is there and waiting?

i think they will get more radio once all channels are done <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Dark Lord: I'm back.. TVP looks cool great quality... Cant get the radio channel though... <hr /></blockquote>Rescan now as Radio Polska now loads up but no audio at the moment should start soon 12564 H 30000

Radio Polska now working with full audio <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

mr_mixer, Radio will come but everyone must understand that it can't be done overnight. There are alot of other things to do before Radio is done. Balkan? Greek? Portuguese? Persian? Polish? Filipino? English? Radio? Long list....

Tried the radio... Excellent... now have to wait till next month and bang it will all be gone again.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" /> Have to start saving money now.. hehehe I tell ya what though its good to be up to date with some of the shows.. Even though we ve missed out on about 30 episodes on some shows..

Ok I guess this has to be asked... Why am I still receicing TVP Polonia on FTA when its suppose to be encrypted by now... Anyone else getting it FTA... I think the paying customers are getting ripped.. <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

was told it was going to happen today will see

I tell ya what.. I want be upset if it stays FTA <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

07 Jul Still FTA... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> Lets Hope UBI start their service soon.. That would be cool to just make one phone call and be back on air with 3 channels... Anyone have any updates on the UBI Package...

Maybe TVP is staying FTA cause of the UBI Polish launching coming up?

Not so sure Liski.. My uncle who is one of their Paying customers seems to be having the same problems as the rest of us... Meaningly the signal has been scrambled a couple of times now but has retured to FTA after 2-3 hours... I reckon they are having major troubles with the encryption .... Card problems from what I suspect..

hope it is very soon. hope to listne about uni good news soon

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Dark Lord: Not so sure Liski.. My uncle who is one of their Paying customers seems to be having the same problems as the rest of us... Meaningly the signal has been scrambled a couple of times now but has retured to FTA after 2-3 hours... I reckon they are having major troubles with the encryption .... Card problems from what I suspect.. <hr /></blockquote>yes i saw that last nite was encrypted one minute then the next minute FTA hmmm... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" />

I wonder if the paying customers get a one week discount..On the monthly bill??? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

encrypted again wonder for how long this time <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" />

Amazing when I got home Yesterday it was Encrypted and by 6pm it was FTA... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> Technical difficulties ??? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Dark Lord: Amazing when I got home Yesterday it was Encrypted and by 6pm it was FTA... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> Technical difficulties ??? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <hr /></blockquote>You seemed disturbed by the fact it was still FTA. Now you can rest your worries. Scrambled. Probably for good.

Yes he is worried that why should he pay when its FTA

Exactly my point.. Thankyou.. I was wondering if the company is going to make the paying customers cover the one weeks rent when it was FTA.. I'll ask my Uncle next month if they billed him for it.. ?

Ok so they may have now finally got it right... But "Polski Radio 1" is still FTA.. Cool... <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> Wonder if they are going to nuke that also... ??? Cant wait for UBi to get Tx up and going..

hi guys I'm new in this forum,(phil knows me from BSOL) but you're talking about pay TV and you're talking about value,so I though i let you know about "LBF which offer 21 channel in FRench for $199 installation and $21 a month for the first 6 months after that it's $42 monthly.THose price are only if you connect this month.When I said these channel are French you can also have them in spanish english german etc..etc... I've no interest in this company just though I let u know.Their web site is "lbf.com.au" cheers michel

Yes I get all of the Free to air French channels on Intelsat 701, Heaps in there pay channel line up to. http://www.lyngsat.com/i701.html http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/tns.html http://www.lyngsat.com/packages/canalsatnc.html Phil

thanks for the links phil. do u speak french ? michel

I know a few Swarewords, No If its on a satellite and its free I get it. I have now 11 Satellite Dishes the Biggest is 4.3M, The smallest is 65cm. The biggest is a 4.3m Parraclipse controlled by a auto tracker via its dedicated computer <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> PS look at my avator <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

Phil I didn't realise your avatar was your backyard(so to speak).I guess u install everything yourself ? U must have a lot of trouble to decide on what to look everynight ? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> Are every dish hook up to their personnal computer ? cheers michel

Michel I have a full control room, I have anything up to 8 monitors running at the same time in one room all on different channels. I get to see the best from all worlds.

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Michel Le Riche: Phil I didn't realise your avatar was your backyard(so to speak).I guess u install everything yourself ? U must have a lot of trouble to decide on what to look everynight ? <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> Are every dish hook up to their personnal computer ? cheers michel <hr /></blockquote>No only the 4.3M is hooked up to the Computer. The computer lives in the cabinet next to all the monitors <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

Just maybe back on the thread's topic: what scrambling do they use on Polonia after all? I've heard Irdeto 1 then 2. What is it?

Irdeto 2 been said earlier in the thread <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />