Read this!<br />Tvplus still in fta and there at it already <br />http://www.austech.info/showthread.php?t=101356<br />also.<br />_<br />[ http://www.VIDGuide.com ] [ Irdeto Card Sharing - Free Software & Now With Tutorials! ]

It will never be as big as cheating TARBS was.<br /><br />Simple reason, 95% of Balkan people don't even have PC, even if they do, they only have dial-up internet.<br /><br />Theoretically it can be done but I believe not many people will do it simple because it will be more expensive than watching it legally.<br /> <br /> <small>[ 23. January 2005, 10:40 AM: Message edited by: ja ]</small>

It shows you whats about to happen, you have to feel pity on any company starting and this is about to happen.<br />And just think about it, this is the primitive way of doing it.<br />They should have done their homework a little better, someone in TV Plus needs their butt kicked.

ja<br />This is Australia you know most ethnics that I know have kids and Most have them in high school where the net at home is just about compulsary and because dialup is slowly getting phased out and switching the Broadband do I need to say more??.

nope <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ja:<br /><strong> It will never be as big as cheating TARBS was.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Wrong. I would say you know very little on the subject. TARBS hacking required a modified receiver , cost of which was around $1200-$1400 dollars.<br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ja:<br /><strong>Simple reason, 95% of Balkan people don't even have PC</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Please enlighten us on the source of these figures. I would say you pulled them out of your arse , which is where you seem to extract most of your information from.<br /><br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ja:<br /><strong>Theoretically it can be done but I believe not many people will do it simple because it will be more expensive than watching it legally. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Wrong again. You are certainly on a roll in this thread , 3 statements , all incorrect.<br /><br /><br />It must really irritate TV+ having you known as their " main brains ".<br /> <br /> <small>[ 23. January 2005, 01:33 PM: Message edited by: Boring ]</small>

Boring I posted my opinion and did not insult anybody so please behave your self.<br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">It must really irritate TV+ having you known as their “main brains ".<br /></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I posted my opinion ONLY and I don't have nothing to do with TV+ or any other company.<br /><br /><br />Furthermore I believe it is wrong to post topics like this on this forum.<br />Fred gave us 2 links about card sharing which is illegal. I'm sure his intentions were not wrong but in fact he used this forum to allow other visitors to find out easily and quickly about card sharing. That makes this forum accomplice in crime as well.<br /><br />Posts like this should be removed and if people persist in putting them, they should be banned. Same rule as for key posting.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ja:<br /><strong> Boring I posted my opinion and did not insult anybody so please behave your self.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I cant see what I have done wrong other than post facts , something that is a rare achievment in your posts. Your posts are full of such misinformation that I feel compelled to let others know that what you are posting is either a) Misinformation or b) lies.<br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ja:<br /><strong>I posted my opinion ONLY and I don't have nothing to do with TV+ or any other company.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">If you want to post your " opinion " , be prepared to have others disagree with your " opinion " , particuarly if your " opinion " is false information.<br /><br />I will continue to refute anything that you post that is false or misinformation.<br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ja:<br /><strong>Furthermore I believe it is wrong to post topics like this on this forum.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">All this from the same person who screams freedom of speech every week ? Amazing. Perhaps freedom of speech is something you want only when it suits you.<br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ja:<br /><strong>Fred gave us 2 links about card sharing which is illegal.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">There are no defined laws in regard to card sharing in Australia. Regardless , discussing something is NOT a crime and never has been. For a <br /> " pro freedom of speech "man , you seem very keen to have all sorts of topics censored on this site. <br /><br /><br /> <br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ja:<br /><strong>I'm sure his intentions were not wrong but in fact he used this forum to allow other visitors to find out easily and quickly about card sharing. That makes this forum accomplice in crime as well.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Again , more rubbish from ja. " the forum an accomplice in crime "is hilarious.The fact that you seem to believe everything you write is even funnier. <br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ja:<br /><strong>Posts like this should be removed and if people persist in putting them, they should be banned. Same rule as for key posting. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Again , the pro freedom of speech man is now trying to have topics banned and people removed from the site because he cant handle having someone correct all the misinformation he is posting.<br /><br />As usual , it seems that you are good at dishing it out but when it comes to taking it , you are quick to start crying to administration.

Freedom of speech can not be used and it's not used anywhere for illegal purposes.<br /><br />If someone post here that he is selling guns, will you defend that person if his post gets deleted? Same thing is posting URL's which can help visitors to achieve their illigal goal.<br />They are both illegal. So do not mix freedom of speech phrase in this matter.<br /><br /><br />Common sense and Australian copyright law forbid posting, hosting or collecting URL links which can be used for breaching copyright or ownership rights.<br /><br />Good example we could all see recently when the owner of www.mp34free.com was sentenced and the site closed. His defense was that he did not host any mp3 files, he JUST posted url links to them and they were hosted on another sites.<br />He was sentenced anyway for providing visitors links to free illegal mp3's ...<br /><br />Allowing similar links to be posted on this forum put this forum in the same shoes as the site above.<br />Moderators and administrators should act on this matter before someone send email to relevant Victorian ombudsman.<br /><br /><br />You said:<br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Again , the pro freedom of speech man is now trying to have topics banned and people removed from the site because he cant handle having someone correct all the misinformation he is posting.<br /></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Facts:<br />1. Fred did not mention me in his post here.<br />2. I clearly stated that I DO BELIVE his intetnions were not wrong.<br />3. I did not try to get him banned, I suggested that if someone PERSIST in posting such or similar posts which can help people to find information about how to pinch channels, to be banned.<br />4. YOU tried to correct, not Fred me, and I DID NOT try to get you banned.<br />5. It is YOU who is twisting the facts, everyone can see from your sentence which I quoted here.<br /> <br /> <small>[ 23. January 2005, 04:15 PM: Message edited by: ja ]</small>

Gentlemen... Satellite TV.... <br /><br />Dave C will take care of the link that was posted. Lets keep the links to the other boards where they belong. On the other boards.<br /><br />Lets also drop the banning stuff as well, as Dave C is the only one that handles that, if it relates to this board.<br /><br />If there is any need for personal business, PLEASE take it to the PM messages. Lets get this locomotive back on the proper tracks.

like I said David its the same person causing the problems.<br />Please all don't be comfused Between David Cottle and David Bate, Two different people and different part of the planet.

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ja:<br /><strong> If someone post here that he is selling guns, will you defend that person if his post gets deleted? Same thing is posting URL's which can help visitors to achieve their illigal goal.<br />They are both illegal. So do not mix freedom of speech phrase in this matter.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Wrong as usual. If someone here was selling a gun on this forum , yes , it would illegal.<br /><br />If someone asked how to operate the gun on this forum , that would NOT be illegal. Nor would posting a link to a gun site that shows how to use it be illegal.<br /><br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ja:<br /><strong>Common sense and Australian copyright law forbid posting, hosting or collecting URL links which can be used for breaching copyright or ownership rights.<br /><br />Good example we could all see recently when the owner of www.mp34free.com was sentenced and the site closed. His defense was that he did not host any mp3 files, he JUST posted url links to them and they were hosted on another sites.<br />He was sentenced anyway for providing visitors links to free illegal mp3's ...<br /><br />Allowing similar links to be posted on this forum put this forum in the same shoes as the site above.<br />Moderators and administrators should act on this matter before someone send email to relevant Victorian ombudsman.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Lol@australian copyright law on a site on a server in the USA <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> no idea yet again.<br /><br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ja:<br /><strong>Facts:<br />1. Fred did not mention me in his post here.<br /></strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by fred:<br /><strong>ja<br />This is Australia </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial"> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ja:<br /><strong>2. I clearly stated that I DO BELIVE his intetnions were not wrong.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I didnt say otherwise. What are you raving on about ?<br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ja:<br /><strong>3. I did not try to get him banned, I suggested that if someone PERSIST in posting such or similar posts which can help people to find information about how to pinch channels, to be banned.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">You are trying to get plenty of people banned. Especially people who give as good as they get because you cant handle it.<br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ja:<br /><strong>4. YOU tried to correct, not Fred me, and I DID NOT try to get you banned.</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">If that was in English I would respond to it. I have never " not fredded you "in my life. <br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ja:<br /><strong>5. It is YOU who is twisting the facts, everyone can see from your sentence which I quoted here. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Quote me all you like. And I will continue to quote the misinformation that you post on this site.<br /><br />Mr Moderator/Administrator , please move this post to the correct forum if required.

Boring we can all see that you are attacking me all the time.<br />You did not post single post about something else in 2 days besides attacking me on this site.<br /><br />Keep on with your good work.<br /><br /><br />PS<br /><br />Phil<br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">like I said David its the same person causing the problems.<br /></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I coused problems posting my opinion over very important isue - posting URL links to hacking sites?!<br /><br />Are you for real?

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ja:<br /><strong> Boring we can all see that you are attacking me all the time.<br /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">And you havent attacked anyone but me in that time. Which shows what a great public service I am running here for members.<br /><br />Go have a cry mate <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" />

Boring I love you.<br /><br />Now let yours be last.<br />Post something else here and lets stop it with this.<br /><br />From now on I'l try to ignore you.

geeeee, some people really have nothing to do with their lives but insult each other.....please people read, post and become smarter and not the opposite .........

I have updated the Aus-City FAQ to include the two guidelines Dave C had stated on the FAQ forum concerning the open and private forums. I did include one item concerning the links to other message boards and private web sites.<br /><br /><br />Please no more people bashing or comments about family members. Lets keep "ALL" topics on subject. If it is not on subject, take it to another forum were it is on topic or to private message (PM).<br /><br />These open forums are public and all, including minors, have access. Lets set a mature attitude here and lets get things back to Satellite talk and more important legal items. No more personal bashing.<br /><br />Please lets be mature and respective to *ALL*.<br /> <br /> <small>[ 24. January 2005, 03:00 AM: Message edited by: David Bate ]</small>

Fred and ja. Please read "What are the guidelines for the Open Forums?" in the FAQ.<br /><br />Please no more links to other boards or private web sites without their permission. Please keep the messages on topic and legal. No more discussions on banning, copyright laws or mothers or any other member of the family. If the subject is not on topic and is something that a 15 year-old or younger shouldn't read, don't type it.<br /><br />I, for one, do not want Dave C to face any legal issues, as he has enough crap on his plate as it is.<br /><br />This is a Satellite TV discussion forum. Lets return to that subject.

I totally agree.<br /><br />That's what I was saying all the time, keep it legal.

I was hoping there would be a rule against " constantly posting bullshit and false information " .

just saw the rules and its says no posting to any other or private boards which i guess ja's signature does so i guess u have remove ur signature ja as ur advertising ur own forum <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">:<br /><strong> No links to messages or topics on other boards or private web sites, without the their expressed permission.<br /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">

Indeed , well spotted lazer <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> . Mr "incel" should have his username removed , as well as his signature and adverts.

yes Mr Incel aswell needs to change his name and sig as he is advertising his shop and services <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" />

Well in this case I will send a email to the owner of Austech.info and ask him/her permission to put links on his forum, So what I'm trying to say is if the owner of Austech allows me to put links on tis forum about Austech I WILL DO IT!!.

Lazer I gave myself permission to use URL to my site in my signature.<br /><br />BY the rules.

Maybe Ja , but you are not linking to a post on your site , you are simply advertising your whole site which against the rules.<br /><br />Maybe you should read the rules a second time <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <br /><br /> <br />- No advertisements – Mentioning a product or service in passing is fine, but direct solicitations are not allowed. This includes, but is not limited to, links to competing websites.<br /><br />- No links to messages or topics on other boards or private web sites, without the their expressed permission.<br /> <br /> <small>[ 24. January 2005, 04:16 PM: Message edited by: Boring ]</small>

ja remove you site please otherwise I will report you to David Bate, it his rules not mine

There is no rulle that I can not use my signature.<br />My site is not a "product".<br /><br />My signature is a link] and therefore it is in links rulles category which I respect.<br /><br />If admin tells me that I must remowe my signature, with good explanation why, I will.<br /> <br /> <small>[ 24. January 2005, 05:48 PM: Message edited by: ja ]</small>

But your the one that complained that you don't want links to other sites and you use the crap Piracy, This forums are probable the only forum around that doesn't go in detail about piracy, read the new rules.<br /><br />read the last bit clearly.<br /><br />- No advertisements – Mentioning a product or service in passing is fine, but direct solicitations are not allowed. This includes, but is not limited to, LINKS TO COMPETING WEBSITES.<br /> Please remove your Link ja, I am asking nicely.

Phil I said my site is nor product. My site do not sell any products or sell any service. My site is non profit site it has nothing to do with product or service adwertising.<br /><br />Do you agree with that?!<br /><br />Please do not twist the facts.<br /><br />I complained NOT ABOUT ALL links, to ban all links is stupid.<br />I complined about links where people can get help (keys or card sharing info) or learn how to pirate, pinch and steal channels.<br />It is clearly stated on my site that thos kind of links or posts are strictly forbiden.<br /><br />Internet is all about sharing informations - BUT NOT ILLEGAL INFO'S, OR INFO THAT MIGHT HELP YOU TO DO ILLEGAL THING.<br />Anybody is more than welcome to use aus-city link in their signature on my site as long as this site do not allow any illegal posts or links to illigal posts or sites or does not have any illegal contains.<br /><br />You don't have to ask me nicely, like I said I'l doit if david ask me to.<br />You said you are going to report me to David, so lets wait what he has to say.<br /> <br /> <small>[ 24. January 2005, 07:47 PM: Message edited by: ja ]</small>

Fuck me , do we have one set of rules for you ja and one for everyone else ?A site admin told you to remove it , just do it. <br /><br />Why doesnt this guy get his marching orders ? It seems he is constantly allowed to dictate rules to others while ignoring them himself.<br /><br />If Phil doesnt report you , I will.The rules have been clearly stated and if everyone else has to abide by them , you can to.

No he did not. In his first post he told me he is going to report me to David.<br />I beg him to report me.<br /><br />OK<br />Let's wait what David has to say about this.<br /><br />I vote for rules that are same for all.<br /><br />Boring, no personall attacks, so get off my back.<br /> <br /> <small>[ 24. January 2005, 08:13 PM: Message edited by: ja ]</small>

There is no personal attack Ja. I am pointing out that you are breaking the rules and you have shown yet again that you have no respect for this site.<br /><br />Personally , I think you should be thrown off the site. If anyone else showed the disrespect that you do , I am sure they would be. I cant see why we have to make an exception for you.

ja<br />All the troubles on this forum have been around you, I have been on this forum for 4 years and never had trouble with anyone except you, i don't give a shit who you are I'm convinced you only serve one purpose in this forum and its to cause trouble<br /><br />Boring ja has the Blessing of Dave Cottle,I banned him D Cottle let him in the Private forum, if i ban him he comes back using his collection of email address and his router to do what he wants.<br />I pray to who ever Will you please go to Ja site and do the same to his site to what he has been doing here, and because he is doing this here I will take my frustration out on TV plus, because thats what its all about.<br />I want all to do the same.

I give up... I tried to help, but instead got my face slapped...

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ja:<br /><strong> Phil I said my site is nor product. My site do not sell any products or sell any service. My site is non profit site it has nothing to do with product or service adwertising.<br /><br />Do you agree with that?!<br /><br />Please do not twist the facts.<br /><br />I complained NOT ABOUT ALL links, to ban all links is stupid.<br />I complined about links where people can get help (keys or card sharing info) or learn how to pirate, pinch and steal channels.<br />It is clearly stated on my site that thos kind of links or posts are strictly forbiden.<br /><br />Internet is all about sharing informations - BUT NOT ILLEGAL INFO'S, OR INFO THAT MIGHT HELP YOU TO DO ILLEGAL THING.<br />Anybody is more than welcome to use aus-city link in their signature on my site as long as this site do not allow any illegal posts or links to illigal posts or sites or does not have any illegal contains.<br /><br />You don't have to ask me nicely, like I said I'l doit if david ask me to.<br />You said you are going to report me to David, so lets wait what he has to say. </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">ja your site is your problem, We don't put keys or run a Special forum just to show you how to Card share, If you keep this crap up I will advise all the Owners and Admins of these others sites about you and trust me that won't go down well.<br />Will some one please give ja a Copy of the Digital<br />agenda Act 2001, READ IT Card sharing and heaps of other Pirating is not ILLEGAL IN AUSTRALIA GET THIS IN YOU HEAD.<br />THERE ARE AUSTRALIAN FORUM THAT ARE 100% PIRATE FORUMS FOR CHRIST SAKE and you are worried about links to austech.info which has very little on piracy <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" />

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by David Bate:<br /><strong> I give up... I tried to help, but instead got my face slapped... </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">David No don't give up we only have one trouble maker on this site if he went I GUARANTEE you all would be back to normal, this person on this forum has only one purpose and its to cause trouble.

Disagreeing is not the same as causing trouble. Grow up boys, why should everyone in this forum think the same?

What trouble I caused?<br />You are not normal.<br /><br />Only thing I did here is disagreeing with some of you or some of your posts. You couldn’t handle that, you couldn’t handle the truth when I posted facts (from web sites of TV PINK, TVBN and BKTV, what I did was a simple post what I found on their sites – that UBI has no rights to broadcast their channels – what happened next – I GOT BANNED, FRAMMED INSULTED ETC ETC), which I found out before you. You all saw same facts about 15 days later on your screens.<br /><br />If you can't take that, well maybe you should quit message boards.<br /><br />Remember, message boards are not here for all of us to agree on everything or to lick arsses to each other, message boards are here mainly for people to discuss, discuss means disagreeing and arguing somebody else’s opinions.<br /><br /><br />David, I told Phil, if you tell me to remove my signature, I will- No questions ask.<br />Anyway that site I made only when Phill was terrorizing users here, deleting and editing whatever he wanted, until webmaster stopped him. I have no further intentions or interest in building that site any further or bigger, simply because I don’t know much about all this satellite crap. My occupation (which I don’t do currently) is IT technician (web designer and server security technician), nothing about satellites. That site was only made after I got frustrated with bans and my posts got deleted all the time here and after many other users PM me to start another message board, which I did ONLY to allow people freedom of speech because at that time that was denied to users here.<br />Webmaster managed to get things in order, showed Phil where his place is and manly everything work fine here.<br />Only thing is people still attacking each other like bunch of old and bored women.<br /><br />If Phill acted in different way towards me in the beginning (allowed me to post truth, anyway everybody is posting those messages now, and I was banned when I posted them), nothing of this would happen. He would have biggest support from me.<br /> <br /> <small>[ 25. January 2005, 03:51 PM: Message edited by: ja ]</small>

David please use your admin powers and check this IP and if someone with that IP post here.<br />You don't need to tell me who it is, it's enough that you know who is doing what behind your back.<br /><br />Reason why I ask this?<br /><br />Today somebodey tried to hack australia satellite forum from that IP and I higly suspect it is someone from here.<br /><br />I'l post you prof of attempted hacking:<br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">To: zasto33@yahoo.com <br />Subject: New password for Australia Satellite <br />From: "Australia Satellite" <zasto33@yahoo.com> Add to Address Book <br />Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 01:39:05 +0000 <br /><br /> <br />Dear webmaster,<br /><br />This mail was sent because the 'forgot password' function has been <br />applied to your account. To set a new password click the following link:<br /><br />(link edited)<br /><br />IP: 220.237.14.185<br /><br />Username: webmaster<br /><br />Regards,<br />The Australia Satellite Team.<br /></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Idiot asked forum to send him new pass for my nick, only thing is, forum is smarter than he is, forum automatically send email to email address I left when I registered my nick.<br /> I left you IP for all to see.<br /><br /><br />Thank you<br /><br /><br />PS<br /><br />Link to the whole topic (with my permission)<br /><br />http://xsorbit27.com/users5/australiasatelite/index.php?topic=74.0<br /> <br /> <small>[ 25. January 2005, 04:40 PM: Message edited by: ja ]</small>

Ja Please STOP posting things like that I think people have had enough of this.<br /><br />If you have positive information to give please do otherwise stop your silly posting no one cares and people have had enough, and I'm one of those people.<br /><br />All you are doing is stirring, you just wanna start fights and arguments just let it go!!<br /><br />If someone posts something, that annoys you just ignore PLEASE I REPEAT WE HAVE HAD ENOUGH OF YOUR POSTS .<br />POST SOMETHING THAT HELPS PEOPLE, NOT FIGHTS AND ARGUMENTS <br />STOP STOP STOP STOP!!!!!!!!!!!!

THE MYSTERY MAN IS ME JA HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!<br /><br />JUST GIVING U BACK WAT U DO ON THIS FORUM JUST GAVE ABIT BACK ONTO UR OWN FORUM DOESNT FEEL GOOD DOES IT JA <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/default/tongue.gif" /> <br /><br />I DONT CARE IF I GET BANNED OR LOSE MOD ACCESS ON THIS FORUM I DNT GIVE CRAP <br /><br />BUT JUST WANTED U TO KNOW IT WAS ME AND UR A GOOSE AND A CLOWN <br /><br />AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN I WAS JUST GIVING BACK THE SAME SHIT U HAVE BEEN DOING ON THIS FORUM U POST SHIT ON THIS FORUM I POSTED SAME SHIT ON UR FORUM AND U DIDT LIKE IT DID SO U CAN GO GET F%$##%D I REALLY DONT CARE <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/default/tongue.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/default/tongue.gif" /> <br /><br />HAVE A NICE DAY AND PLEASE COME AGAIN<br /><br />PS: THIS MAY CAUSE ME TO GET BANNED OFF THIS FORUM AND LOSE MOD ACCESS CAUSE OF WAT I DONE BUT I DNT CARE JA IS A DICKHEAD AND I WAS JUST GIVING BACK SOME OF WAT HE DOES ON THIS FORUM TALK SHHITTTT !!!!! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" />

This is private message from lazer, I'l copy it to you:<br /><br /> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Author Topic: ur a clown <br />-.Lazer.- <br /><br />Moderator <br />Member # 559 posted 25 January, 2005 05:52 PM <br />--------------------------------------------------------------------------------<br />THE MYSTERY MAN IS ME JA HAHAHAHAHA!!!!!<br /><br />JUST GIVING U BACK WAT U DO ON THIS FORUM JUST GAVE ABIT BACK ONTO UR OWN FORUM DOESNT FEEL GOOD DOES IT JA <br /><br />I DONT CARE IF I GET BANNED OR LOSE MOD ACCESS ON THIS FORUM I DNT GIVE CRAP <br /><br />BUT JUST WANTED U TO KNOW IT WAS ME AND UR A GOOSE AND A CLOWN <br /><br />AND I WILL SAY IT AGAIN I WAS JUST GIVING BACK THE SAME SHIT U HAVE BEEN DOING ON THIS FORUM U POST SHIT ON THIS FORUM I POSTED SAME SHIT ON UR FORUM AND U DIDT LIKE IT DID SO U CAN GO GET F%$##%D I REALLY DONT CARE <br /><br />HAVE A NICE DAY AND PLEASE COME AGAIN<br /><br />PS: THIS MAY CAUSE ME TO GET BANNED OFF THIS FORUM AND LOSE MOD ACCESS CAUSE OF WAT I DONE BUT I DNT CARE JA IS A DICKHEAD AND I WAS JUST GIVING BACK SOME OF WAT HE DOES ON THIS FORUM TALK SHHITTTT !!!!! <br /> <br /> <br /></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I can't belive that people like this exist.<br /><br /><br />PS<br /><br />Dan04 can you read? Who is cousing trouble here????<br />Look what moderators from aus-city are doing to me?<br />Read .......

WELL IF YOU JUST STOP NO ONE WILL BOTHER YOU YOUR JUST ADDING FUEL TO FIRE

I'l stop and let webmaster fix this I send him screenshoots of this topic, to him and to David Bate.<br />There is no need for me to say anything here after this.<br /><br />Really shame for this site and forum, one moderator from aus-city to behave like this, hacking, and abusing me like lunatic.<br /><br />It's going to be interesting to see how administrators will handle him. <br /><br />Shame on you Lazer.<br /> <br /> <small>[ 25. January 2005, 05:19 PM: Message edited by: ja ]</small>

SHAME ON YOU JA YOUR A MODERATOR OF YOUR OWN SITE AND LOOK AT THE WAY U HAVE BEEN ACTING THE LAST 3 MONTHS LIKE A D......D <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/default/tongue.gif" /> <br /><br />LIKE I SAID U WHINGE LIKE SOME OLD WOMEN U JUST CANT STOP PULLING CRAP OUT OR UR BACK SIDE CAN U <br />U JUST CANT HELP URSELF WITH THE CRAP THAT COMES OUT OF U <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 25. January 2005, 05:13 PM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]</small>

WATEVA ADMINS ARE ON NOW REMOVE FROM UR SITE I DNT WANT TO BE A PART OF THIS ANYMORE <br /><br />ILL TAKE VLAD'S ADVICE AND LEAVE THIS FORUM AS HE HAS DONE ALSO AND GO TO OTHER FORUMS WERE THEY ACTUALLY TALKS ABOUT SAT TV AND ALL THE REST <br /><br />THIS FORUM IS FULL OF ARGUEMENTS CAUSED BY MAINLY ONE PERSON BY THE NAME OF JA <br /><br />SO CYA'S ALL LATER <br /><br />AND REMEMBER JA I WILL ALWAYS LOVE U HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/default/tongue.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/default/tongue.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Razz]" src="images/icons/default/tongue.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 25. January 2005, 05:18 PM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]</small>

ja you Trouble maker i will get my revenge

Phil, Im trouble maker?<br />You will get your revenge? Are you threatening me?<br /><br />I'm victim here, My site was hacked by one of your moderators and I was abused like never in my life and you call me troublemaker?<br /><br />Mate, what do you smoke?

shit u must be a good IT Technician if u call by clicking forget password in the login section of ur site and putting ur username in to send u ur password as hacking<br /><br />u sound like a simple person ja simple things amuse simple people i suppose u r one of them

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ja:<br /><strong> <br />It's going to be interesting to see how administrators will handle him. <br /><br /> </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">wat r they goin to do ban me i dnt care u have made this forum or should i say circus into ur own little playground so ban away admins i dnt care<br /><br />PS are u taking ur screen shots ja as u always do dnt forget to take ur screen shots ja<br /> <br /> <small>[ 25. January 2005, 05:28 PM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]</small>

I dont beleive Ja is 32 years old a 32 year would not act the way you do Ja, it's a real shame. your not 32 years old you are 15 years!<br /><br />I regret to say this but there must be something wrong with you and if there is and your acting like that it is ok<br />Otherwise you are just an imature person Ja

Dan imagine if someone come to your house and try to break in and he does not manage to do that, than he abuse you and publicly admit he is the one who tried to break in .....<br /><br />imagine now, I come to your place, and you tell me what happend and I start to defend that thug who tried to break in to your house?<br /><br />What names whould you call me? What would you think about me if I was defending thief?<br /><br /><br />Well mate, whatever you thing about me in that case, I think about you in this case.<br /> <br /> <small>[ 25. January 2005, 05:35 PM: Message edited by: ja ]</small>

It's really not worth replying to you Ja<br />Say whatever you like your stubborn

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ja:<br />[QB] David please use your admin powers and check this IP and if someone with that IP post here.<br />You don't need to tell me who it is, it's enough that you know who is doing what behind your back.<br /><br />Reason why I ask this?<br /><br />Today somebodey tried to hack australia satellite forum from that IP and I higly suspect it is someone from here.<br /><br />I'l post you prof of attempted hacking:<br /><br /> [QUOTE]To: zasto33@yahoo.com <br />Subject: New password for Australia Satellite <br />From: "Australia Satellite" <zasto33@yahoo.com> Add to Address Book <br />Date: Tue, 25 Jan 2005 01:39:05 +0000 <br /><br /> <br />Dear webmaster,<br /><br />This mail was sent because the 'forgot password' function has been <br />applied to your account. To set a new password click the following link:<br /><br />(link edited)<br /><br /><br />Regards,<br />The Australia Satellite Team.<br /></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Idiot asked forum to send him new pass for my nick, only thing is, forum is smarter than he is, forum automatically send email to email address I left when I registered my nick.<br /> I left you IP for all to see.<br /><br /><br />Thank you<br /><br /><br />PS<br /><br />Link to the whole topic (with my permission)<br /><br /> No links allowed !!!!

OK, No links allowed.<br /><br />Moderator abusing and hacking visitors allowed?!

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ja:<br /><strong> OK, No links allowed.<br /><br />Moderator abusing and hacking visitors allowed?! </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">shit u must be a good IT Technician if u call by clicking forget password in the login section of ur site and putting ur username in to send u ur password as hacking<br /><br />u sound like a simple person ja simple things amuse simple people i suppose u r one of them

It is still attempted breaking in to my nick and attempted hacking of the legitimate site.<br /><br />It is still you who is abusing me in private messages.<br /><br />Not me. You mate. YOU

i sent u 1 private msg and it was the same thing i posted here so everyone saw it i didt hide nuthin

You did not have any choice, I publicly demanded from admin information about that. You knew he is going to unmask you so that's why you lost it.<br />Reacted like lunatic with that PM to me, after that you realized your mistake because you knew that I will copy that message on the forum so you did it first.<br /><br />Mate it's not your day.

ja I hope your not responsible for that abusive email sent to Phil Debono.<br />Because after seeing that post what you said to georgepie it does not look good for you.<br />I have been reading this forum for days and I can see only Phil having trouble with you, also you are having trouble with others .<br />you understand my PM this now will effect others what P Debono is about to do

QUOTE]Originally posted by ja:<br /><strong> You did not have any choice, I publicly demanded from admin information about that. You knew he is going to unmask you so that's why you lost it.<br />Reacted like lunatic with that PM to me, after that you realized your mistake because you knew that I will copy that message on the forum so you did it first.<br /><br />Mate it's not your day. </strong>[/QUOTE]<br /><br /><br />i posted that msg before i even sent it to u if u were smart enough to look at the time thick head<br /> <br /> <small>[ 25. January 2005, 06:07 PM: Message edited by: -.Lazer.- ]</small>

The admin, I asked and demanded from Debono to publish that email with full header so we can all see and trace it who send it to him.<br /><br />I said to gergipie and I will repet it " go to your home and tell your mother to shut the fuck up", because he need to learn some maners and stop saying that same isnult on this forum to complete strangers. he got what he deserved and I'm responsible to that post.<br />If he say "sorry" to all of us for his post, i will say sorry to him for my post.<br />So much for georgiepie.<br /><br /><br />Lets stick to that email.<br />I'm still demanding it, Publish the email with full header so we can see who is thug.<br />He wants to frame me, but can not do it.<br />And stay on the topic, you as an acting admin, what are you going to do about this moderator of yours "lazer" after all this?<br /> <br /> <small>[ 25. January 2005, 06:16 PM: Message edited by: ja ]</small>

the question is wat is the admin going to do about u ja ........??

haha <br /><br />have nice day loser .... ops, I meant Lazer

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by ja:<br /><strong> haha <br /><br />have nice day loser .... ops, I meant Lazer </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">hahaha no u have a nice day <br /><br />simple things amuse simple minds ja

Ja, I think you should sit down have a cup of coffee and enjoy watching blurry pink Plus on TV plus

Ja I know a few serbian people and I never mention TV plus to them, they are well aware of UBI and will join after they encrypt the package.<br /><br />They don't have a clue about TV plus and I will never mention or advertise TV plus to anyone I dont care if they are serbian<br /><br />I don't want to be responsible for telling them about TV plus only because I know that TV plus has a very short time to live.<br /><br />Its only a matter of time till TV Plus dies (loses signal from PanAmsat) PamAmsat excerised its rights with TARBS World TV Pty Ltd, it will do it with TV Plus, the funds are looking dry as they are struggling to add more channels, which signals that TV plus will die soon.

Dan04<br /><br />I don't give shit about TV+ or UBI, all started when I read on balkan channels sites and saw info that for their broadcast TV+ have contracts. I posted that here, I was banned, framed with that non existing abusive email, insulted etc etc ...<br />All those posts and are posted now on the forum and nobody is banned, only person who was banned over those posts was me.<br /><br />I defended myself and I will in the future. Nobody will walk over me. NEVER, specially not somme pro UBI lying thug who changes sides like wind blows....<br /><br />Than this lazer came and started this business of his, try to hack my forum, abused me etc etc ...<br /><br /><br />Anyway, did you watch the tenis?<br />Roger vs Agasi?<br /><br />Poor Agasi was destroyed.

no I was watching Pink Plus on Pas8 actually,

I was Watching Pink Plus and that new bulgarian channel on b3.

Are you happy with ubi and its channels Big Mac?

I'm still waiting my installation .....<br /><br /><br />I pray to God not to be like this:<br /><br />First day, God created earth<br />Second day God created ......<br /><br /><br />9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999<br />9999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999<br />99999999999999999999999999999999999999999999999<br />99999999999999999999999999999999999999999 9999999999999999999999999999999999999999 days later TV+ started installations .......<br /> <br /> <small>[ 25. January 2005, 08:03 PM: Message edited by: ja ]</small>

yes the channels are ok but when they stop the fta i will be moving my dish to pass8 fot tvplus.

yes the channels are ok but when they stop the fta i will be moving my dish to pass8 for tvplus.

sorry didnt mean to post it 2 times sorry.

why bigmac??

Because i will be going with tvplus because thay have the rights for pink etc but if they dont get mktvsat i wont be goin with them .

I think TV plus has brainwashed their viewers into beleiving the exclusive story.<br />The real losers are the people who join TV plus, and as I said TV plus has brainwashed it's viewers into beleiving it.

Then where are those letters that auspay have coming from ?

Unbelievable.<br /><br />We still have to sit through the imbecilic ravings of a twit like Ja , and lose Laser as a Moderator out of it.<br /><br /> KNOCK KNOCK ANYONE HOME IN ADMIN LAND ? Ban this halfwit before the majority of the members here leave.<br /><br />Or do I have to start another poll ?

Look big mac you were a tarbs customer you have everything that is needed it will not cost you a single cent , except the monthly fee and that's it.<br />When UBI encrypts the channels join them as it will not cost you anything! A big if UBI loses the channels your after, then you will have no alternative but to join TV Plus in which then you will pay extra set up costs.<br /><br />Why join TV plus now? when UBI has your channels? by joining TV plus you will have your channels only but joining UBI you have a lot more channels and the sound and quality are better.<br />Dont beleive what people say they are just desperate they need subscribers for TV plus to serve their interest,<br />I will not explain anymore Im sick of typing and I dont care what you people do it's your money you are wasting not mine.<br />If I was in the same position I would do as I have explained<br />All this stupid stories that you cant move your TARBS dish other than to PAS8 is all bullshit its just a way to scare people<br />And if you (in general) beleive it you are crazy.

Well i was not a tarbs customer, my father signed up before they went down and he paid the connection fee of $120 and they went bust before they could install the dish and the box can he get his money back somehow?

Dan04 did TV+ brainwashed TV Pink directors also.<br /><br />TV Pink owners must be brainwashed to put this logo on TV PNK web site .....<br /><br /> <img src="http://www.rtvpink.com/temp_images/satelitAustralija.gif" alt=" - " /><br /><br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Wink]" src="images/icons/default/wink.gif" /> <br />same thing goes for the owners of BN TV and BK TV they must be brainwashed as well.<br /><br /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Cool]" src="images/icons/default/cool.gif" />

I would say if you have proof that you paid for connection like a Bank statement or Credit card statement as it shows how much tarbs took out has the company name and date, they may credit you by giving you 2 months free subscribtion a way to pay you back.<br /><br />This is just my thought but you will have to call them and discuss it with them<br />1300 400 800 is their number

ok thanx dan04.

They will probablly say to him to join them and they will not charge him two months to repay him that money that way ..... BUT in a long term they will have him locked in their contract.<br /><br />Just my guess .....