It has come to my attention via IP checks that the Police have been trawling this forum trying to identify anyone they can and ordering them off the forum.
Tell me Cops why don't you pass your fucking time chasing Pedophiles instead of chasing and harassing people on this forum.
ALL IP'S are logged and dated and kept for legal reason because if its true what you have done to these two members you need to be reported to the CMC.

That's a bit scary isn't it! To think that we have to be careful that we might be 'found out' and told to get off the forum. How can they stop people from using it? Are they threatening to charge with something?

now aint that just typical......scare tactics....oh you gov dolts.....lets sack the lot of you ....and you insensitive coppers.....go get a real job, cos you sure cant do the one youre doing .....you too forget, all those families you have framed or stood over years ago....the children of those families are now adults....and they remember the injustices done on their families....so how would or could you expect to be trusted......or even respected for that matter......

My my I wonder whos feathers are ruffled.....hahahahaha

They can't charge us with anything and they know it.

That's about it
I think the poll done the trick!!
Now lets see what area it rates from.

This topic bugs me and I'm going to get on my high horse about it!

And my horse is bloody high - if I might add!

Everything that goes through a police station, goes through a chain of command... It's standard police protocol.

Things continuously change hand until they reach their required destination.

Now from what I understand (and correct me if I'm wrong as I'm no expert) for a standard issue cop to be trawling a web site like this, it's completely out of their realm of jurisdiction.

What I mean is, to have a site like this observed it would need to be done via request through the CHAIN OF COMMAND to reach the DEPARTMENT in whatever police headquarters or investigation unit to then be handed to a particular POLICE IT EXPERT to have them carry out the initial written request... That can take months!

Then - once information is gathered (which is usually months, if not years of mounted documentation) the info is sent BACK UP the chain of command the same way it was sent down.

A standard issue police officer, detective or whomever can not sit on their work computer and observe a forum or X amount of forums because it is NOT in their job description... There is a process - a protocol for gathering such information.

It would seem to me that if information was gathered in such a way, it would likely not even be legal.

It certainly wouldn't be condoned by the upper echelon of the police hierarchy.

It would be in my opinion that anything gathered this way for use in a DoCS case would be solely used on the fact that a POLICE OFFICER obtained.

I don't think it would hold up in court... Especially if a savvy legal rep asked said police officer how he/she obtained the information.

A good legal rep would hammer the police officer at trial about carrying out a task that was not one of their duties.

And make the DoCS witness look like an idiot.

I believe it's all bluff.

Honestly, if they wanted to put a stop to certain people posting here, they would take their issue to the owner of the web site - not to the people posting.

I think they are all running around like chooks with their heads choppe doff....that is about the depth of their intelligence......

As a matter of interest for your members I was passed this on by one of our Lawyers for your members perusal.


http://www.cmc.qld.gov.au/data/portal/00000005/content/39921001136957889067.pdf

Also

http://www.police.qld.gov.au/aboutUs/the_service/structure/esc/

I am familiar with a previous matter on this aus-city forum relating to a copyright infringement which I will not comment on but aus-city won.

If you read below down the bottom David Cottle explains very clearly that nobody and in this case that includes the Police or this Department of Child Safety is allowed to copy an individuals posts, (that includes screen shots) whatsoever without permission of an aus-city forum Admin.
If you look at the link below it states very clearly
regarding How do I avoid becoming the subject of a complaint. Now read item 6 and 7
http://www.cmc.qld.gov.au/data/portal/00000005/content/39921001136957889067.pdf

ew_289
You forgot to say it has to be written permission from the owner David Cottle.

So its simple if someone on this site is getting screwed by something that a member wrote on this forum that is not offensive in any way and this something is being used against the person by another (that means ANYONE) and they have taken copies which includes printing screen shots or what ever without being approved in writing by the owner he or she has broken copyright and appropriate action will be taken against this person.

Copyright © 2001 - 2008 by David Cottle. Designed by David Bate Jr. All Rights Reserved.
By using this forum, the user agrees not to transfer any data or technical information received under the agreement, to any other entity without the express approval of the Aus-City Forum Admins and/or authors of individual posts (Forum Admins and DoD/USSPACECOM for the analysis of satellite tracking data).

Two-line elements (TLE) and all other satellite data presented and distributed via this forum and e-mail lists of Aus-City are distributed with permission from DoD/USSTRATCOM.

Wow, what I thought was accurate pretty much was and if police officers/detectives are lurking at this forum, playing copy-and-paste then they're being very naughty.

Nice links EW - well done!!

Seems to me that now that everyone has had their eyes opened to a bit of legitimate legal documentation it may make the lurkers think twice about their antics.

My guess is that in regard to DoCS/police it's a mud slinging exercise and if some of the mud sticks all the better.

But I suspect that we have been underestimated by those who are aiming to sling mud.

Anyone of you losers that joins this forum with a sob story and if you're stupid enough to give details of who you're Child Safety will use this information against you.

I do love the way Julie comes in and exhibits her ignorance. LOL

Great entertainment value.

She's not read the full thread properly.

I personally don't think a anyone should post about things involving laws if they don't have even a remote idea about the law.

Just for you Julie -

Here's the child safety I practically use and have contact through - Toowoomba, now use your menacing, conniving, manipulating, lying and psychopathic skills to track me down and use it against me....quick, at the end of the day you and Child Safety have to answer to the Magistrate...Get past that one!

Um, yes... Yes, at the end of the day it is indeed up to the Magistrate!

I think people need to read a whole thread to get the flow of the conversation instead of butting in half cocked and making themselves look stupid.

Hmm,

child safety have their own laws tart.....and none of them are in the law books.....

LOL

Thought you were calling me a tart for a moment there.

lol no it was that julie....she is in here to try and do something....but all she is showing is that she is one of those inexperienced dolts the dept would embrace...if she wasnt already one of them......

Maybe I should have said nothing about the Copyright of material from this Aus-city site and wait for a sucker from the cops or jab to use it against a person.
I'm not saying more. but if anyone ever gets in the position above please contact me imminently.
forum.admin@aus-city.com

Yes, I realised that. LOL

People shouldn't go off on a tangent about something unless they are in possession of facts.

I've not seen this person produce anything that would be considered fact.

The only thing I see is a need to stir the pot. And even then, it's not stirred very well.

Regardless, everything that is posted by this person means nothing to me except entertainment.

Ignorance is to be expected and we need to tolerate it and let it go.

I wouldn't sweat it... People don't read the "fine print" and our friend has clearly not read previous posts on this thread.

That's all just entertainment but on the other hand how many like her are already employed by DOCS.

Who knows... I believe anything is possible.

what man is unable to undo and fix....nature sure will.......and it is happening more and more everyday.....

Really, Theres police combing this forum..????

Okies, yo cops< im here, And I want to be investigated and questioned. I want you cops to come and raid my home for any child porno on my computer.
I want to be flogged and bashed by you guys to the inch of my Death. and ask me if I am a kid frked,.and Then Hear MY words,,,,,,NO, I am NOT.each time you hit me, that will be my only response, NO, I am NOT.

Just send me a message by email and I will be there.

and anyway, isnt the police force controlled by DOCS?????.

Hmm, the police certainly are influenced by DoCS.

In my case I think it was. The F.O.I just about said that.

I really can't comment.

I've not been down that road much.

What I did see I didn't like - but that wasn't centred around DoCS issues, that was around criminal issues.

But what I did see of JAB reaction to my continuing DoCS issues was more a sense of "Damn, sorry to hear that".

But in my situation, I was not the "baddie" so they had nothing against me in a personal or professional manner.

So what you're trying to say is that your problem was mainly to do with child safety and not with the police.
Do you know if child safety tried to involve the police to have you charged because I know another that had similar circumstances like this.

If you weren't charge was any other member of your family charged?

Sorry Michelle, whom are you asking?

rainbowchaser
I think Michelle is talking about you.
Michelle use the Quote option it makes it easier to identify who you are referring too.

Tell me Michelle! what dreaded office did you tangle with.
Just PM me

Silly Q:
What if I got all my documents, from docs indicating their claims and what they State I have done. and march into the cop shop and demand to be questioned and interviewed. and or Charged.....?.
Logical thinking tells me, they would have to.
but we all know, the cops hold no logics.
They rather be controlled and ordered what to do by DOCS.
Even in townsville, If I ring any government body for help, that government body that I rang, must now inform DOCS that I have rang. who is controlling who...????.

They would probably tell you GO HOME SIR!! you haven't broken any of our laws but DOCS being LEGENDS IN THEIR OWN MINDS would say that you have broken 100 of theirs.

Do you know this if a Child Sleeps in your bed because its scared of storms or whatever that is CHILD ABUSE!!!!! and not encouraged by DOCS!!
YES THESES DOCS MOLES TOLD MY 8 YEARS OLD THIS and tried to use this against my wife, not me my WIFE!!!!!!You FUCKING RAGS!!

Mind you if you wipe your child arse more that 3 times that's called Sexual Abuse, Heaven forbid, don't come close to that front area, that's defiantly child sexual abuse. Don't even look at your child naked or let your child see you even half naked because according to DOCS that's GROOMING!!!

The Public today have not got a clue how FUCKED DOCS ARE.

Michelle, if you are asking me this question...

Yes, my own problem was centred around issues DoCS decided that they had.

DoCS couldn't involve the police with me - nothing I had supposedly done or didn't do warranted charges being laid or a police investigation.

My husband was charged before DoCS became involved... It was the police who contacted DoCS in the first place. Some months later my husband wore a second charge and the police wanted to question me about what he was charged for as well - but between them declaring at one of my husband's trials that they wanted to speak with me and my husband's car accident about 3 months later - the police had never knocked on my door or called me at all... They never made an attempt to contact me.

I don't know what might have happened... If the police had decided that they wanted to lay the same charge against me (attempting to pervert justice) DoCS might have jumped on that and tried to use it against me... But it never happened, so I have no idea.

Yes, it is becoming extremely ridiculous and out of control.

In some ways, it is reverting back to the dark ages.

Men had been encouraged for so long to help care for their children and to help in the raising of their children... So many men out there want to be as involved as the women are.

But if infant or child has poop from one end to the other - the father can't clean it properly or he's done for sexual abuse... If he thinks that the child needs a bath to be washed properly - he's done for sexual abuse because he's washing a girls genitalia in the bath tub.

And we all know that mess like that can get everywhere on a child - especially with a girl! Hooly dooly, it can be all over the place... And it warrants a darn good clean - whether with baby wipes or a flannel in the bath tub.

God forbid that a father does it!!

I like that Quote.....
SO!!! again, I ask, when and how, do we as the abused, inform the public on a grand scale to how truly DOCS are so fingered?.

Hi,

Ihategov that is so correct. Once docs came to my door and my child and I were swimming in the pool. I was just wearing my undies (skin coloured) and docs were shocked when they looked through the front window - whilst I am shouting out 'give me a minute'.

the when I told docs about my child sexually acting out after visits with the father. docs then went on at me about me and my female boarder who would jump in the pool quickly in undies or (her nude) to cool off after me mowing the lawn or her after she did her serious cycling stuff (she was training and do millions of miles on her push bike and then would come home , peel off those cycle clothes and jump in the pool and then get out. It wasnt' any naked orgy or perverted sort of weird stuff) anyway docs worker went on about appropriateness of actions around the then 4 yo male child.

Well male child is nearly 6 and still gate crashes my shower! He has his toys and gets in their and plays and couldn't care less about my nakedness.

I thought all the above in my entry here was within the realm of normal.
docs are becoming the moral judges and taking it to the inth degree.

My son was probably not in the pool at that time either and would have been doing whatever around the house like a 'normal 4 yo child'.

god those bitches are sick....maybe they are actually abusing their own children as well....if not then we get to suffer their sick fantasies

I know that Departmental workers are aware of this site too. There has been a lot of talk about it recently. Many people are interested to see what will happen.

I reckon something will happen - that's for sure.

aye, and I made bloody sure those wankers knew how to get here.......
And the cops are no better.they rather look at the back files of 20 yrs ago and waste all the time investigating the past, when they Could be focused on investigating DOCS.and hear of the pains they inflicted.

Oddly enough DOCS are bunch of monkey's that you cant put a restraining order on.
Now, Why, is that?????>>

Thanks for your reply.
They seem to treat everyone the same as my husband was charged, months later they bumped up another charge, DoCHS tried to have me charged, The police tried to have me charged on the same charge as they tried with you Perverting the course of Justice, they charged me, They uncharged me, (dropped the charge) its all a game for them to wear you down.

Wasn't it I hate Gov Dept that said that one day something will happen with child safety and one day and the government will deny it that they knew there was a problem but how can they deny it now when this site has hundreds of pages of complaints also the amounts of documented letters sent to all the politicians in this what was a great country

Thats me!!!

The Police make you laugh today as they always try the same dirty tricks on just about everyone.
See they charge you say with attempted rape, they upgrade it to rape and throw in a few more charges here and there to create confusion and later on they add another charge like maintaining a sexual relationship with a child under the age of 16.
But get this!!! They do yanks style plea bargaining as they say to your legal team WE WILL DROP ALL CHARGES AGAINST YOUR CLIENT IF YOU AGREE TO THE MAINTAINING RELATIONSHIP CHARGE AND PLEAD GUILTY ON THAT ONE.

They do this to just about everyone.
Look at the trial going on now with that school teacher (Name withheld) she had around 229 charges against her and now the prosecution have decided to combined it to just one charge of Maintaining a sexual relationship with a child under the age of 16 (I think CODE 229B).

WHAT A LOT OF SHIT!!!

They charge you with rape and the crown decides to drop the charges if you agree to the others, which one is it crown? If you charge a person with a charge then you drop it means in my eyes that you falsely charged that person in the first place.
They play a game that always suits themselves.

OooooOOOOOHH,,, don't tell DOCS this!!This is a NO,NO with them

You know how sick the world has come today.
Years ago my youngest soiled it pants at school when the child was 7 years old.
The school rang home we were not home, The school rang my mobile but I was in a area with poor mobile phone reception and the school didn't speak to us so the child stayed in the sick bay area for 4 hours before they got in contact with us.
Nobody in this sick fuck of a school tried to clean my child up you sick bastards and this alone warrants a child abuse charge to be put to the head master of that school.

I was only talking about this to my sister the other day and she reminded me that back in our days in a Catholic school if a child shit itself and the child was young they would take the young child to the shower and clean the mess up and most of the time they carried a arrangement of different size of undies for boys or girls + spare uniforms.
The same for an older child at school as accidents do happen except the older children had to cleaned themselves but in all cases the school ALWAYS had spare clothes.

Today the schools are full of female teachers yet nobody did nothing to clean my child up, The teachers today are are scared and just sick in the head. What woman or a mother in a school as a school teacher could leave any child with shit in its pants for hours like they did for our child.

I get your point I hate gov, but its the way we have become. You would think that a school full of female teachers would have attended to a child in need.
And as for your point on no males in school anymore well this is the reason why the education system is not as good as what it was years ago.

Their sick and probably following guidelines from the Education Dept
I bet if it was one of their or their friends kids they would have acted differently.

My last partner was a School teacher.
She is suppose to be educated to understand the needs of the child/ren. her net name was midnightrose_74(you can do a google on the name,also try Snak3).
we were together about a yr.she was with me 24/7,she saw everything i did. we were,as I quoted, ALL good,but not alright. good,cos we had a relationship.not alright,cos of the dogs at DOCS.
this woman for a yr stood beside me, she screamed out the immoral attitude from Docs.
Until the 29th of Aug. at 1:30am. her love for me turn to hate.
DOCS in toowmooba, Frked her mind up so bad with the help of her so called christian parents. Brainwashed her till she hit depression.the child went into kinship to her parents. and to have no contact with the said child. but! where does she live,?. with her parents. which means she got to hold him,play with him and watch him grow.
I,in turn dont even know what he looks like.
I have a rule. I dont 2 time, I dont drink and I dont hit in anger or abuse in any manner.

That one day is one day to far and long, each day is no different, same pains, same hurts,same nightmares.
its been since 2003, that frking 5 hurtful frking yrs of DOCS playing god with me.
3 children came into this world for naught.
2 partners that was ripped away and love murdered.

What price value can anybody place on this??

I can see what you are all saying and i completly agree.
At my daughters school they have 4 male teachers and 1 executive male teacher and a male janitor out of a total of about 25 staff.

your lucky!!!
My ???????????? primary school has only 2 male teachers.

Not only are the Department watching...but they're members too!

one would be a fool to think that wasnt the case justice

Really, they still here..
When all this 1st started to happen to me.
A notion hit me, in this way.

What if these scums, was using us a test lab rabbit/rat.

Place us in a maze and watch to see if we can find our way out, the closer you got to the end, the more hurdles they would add to it.

If these slimy cops are here reading and watching.
remember this. You to can also be placed in this maze, For DOCS are above the law, DOCS can even placed them in here with us.

No one is safe, No man, or family, is safe from these dogs, and as soon as these cops get out of the kitty litter and smell the roses, NO action will ever take place.

I am still here MR policeman. I still want a interview and questioning by you to the claims of your masters.

Are they?
Well its good to see they were the ones that voted for the poll of the most hated Government Department

HAAAA! You have to laugh that moles that work for DOCS are voting against these office because if you look you will see that nobody voted in favor of their office so I think that blows that theory out the window.
For those that do know this site aus-city.com has a very sophisticated control panel that allows Admins to check who is who + a hundred things more and I'm not saying more.
By the way I'm responsible so far for two getting the sack from their government computer so don't think you can't be caught.

I wonder who will be Number 3

THAT WOULD COMPOUND THEIR ALREADY STAFFING PROBLEM WOULDNT IT HEHEHEHE

If JusticeForAll is talking about DoCs joining the forum well i think she has put her foot in it as if I was a DoCs worker and I joined this forum I would have voted for DoCs not against them.

That's if she was talking about DOCS because as you said if I was DOCS on this public site using their home computer I would have voted in favor of DOCS which nobody did.
Ohhh sorry Julie did.

How exactly have I put my foot in it and what exactly am I putting my foot in??

What have I missed?

JusticeForAll saying the above sort of contradicts the poll.
"EXAMPLE"!!! Out of the 292 that polled the main poll say if 20 of them were DOCS CSO's that have joined the aus-city forum but have never posted EVER (the ones I have emailed) and if this is the case why didn't any of them poll in favor of Child Safety because if I worked in Child Safety and was a member of this forum I would have voted for them without a problem.
There was only two votes totally in favor of DOCS and that was Julie and her proxy server service.(one vote on each poll in favor of DOCS)

Not unless we have DOCS CSO's that have voted against their office, oooOOOOhhhHHH I didn't think of that one! Maybe its the 800+ that have resigned from DOCS for whatever reason this year.
YES ALL 800 + have resigned from the Department of Child safety this year alone. Around 500 last year

As you would say, you have hit the nail on the head.

ha ha ha, I think that is so funny - did Julie really vote in favour of docs or did i read this incorrectly? ha ha ha

Yes, her IP number attached to her in the control panel was attached to her voting yes on both of those polls. But whats got me wondering, i definitely think now we might have some DOCS silent members in the forum that have voted against their office because i have picked up a few Government IP's which were attached to a poll but i cannot tell which one (Too much data to read). Now we all know there was virtually zilch voting for DOCS so they must have voted against them.

How interesting! Again specific IP numbers were matched with the poll and they did vote but i didnt see anyone except Julie voting with DOCS so they must've voted against DOCS. Wouldnt you like to get your hands on these people for a few days? Nothing worse than a disgrunted woman scorned.

YES I KNOW ITS IN THE WRONG THREAD! But why not.

Guys and Gals, since our great Premier is on the money grab trail again and she is short a bit of cash by giving it all to the Department of Child Safety, by increasing fines for everything including of course traffic fines, I would like to remind all what is written below and what I have been reading on other sites, where more and more people are now warning motorists with these speed cameras. See, if you flash your head lights, they grab you for that, by using your high beams in a built up area, but if you just turn your head lights on and off and on and off, is that breaking the law? Well not the law of using your high beams in a built up area, but unfortunately this gangster of a Premier that we have has her own law, which is worse than any other law we have in this state and you know what thats called:

DENYING THE GOVERNMENT REVENUE.

(JUST A REMINDER TO WHAT HAPPENED A WHILE A GO)


Well watching Channel Nine News last night (15/10//07)I just caught a segment about Queensland police getting caught in their own speed cameras. It was interesting once again thanks to the freedom of information ACT and a good reporter that reported this but I would like to add my two bobs worth.
See what attracted my attention to this story was the high percentage of police whilst on or possibly off duty that were booked for speeding but it was the case of an outrageous percentage of them that write a letter to the department with a reason why they were speeding and they get off. Now as I said I just caught this story by a second so I don't exactly remember the percentage that get off but it was high and I can tell you this that the average Tom Dick and Harry that has been caught speeding has got BUCKLEY'S chance of getting off as easy as the off or on duty Police do so how do they do it? Haaaaaa easy!!

No I'm not saying where I got this info from but some of us unfortunately have relatives or friend in the Police service and yes they do enjoy a drink at a BBQ and yes the drink has a habit of loosening a few tongues and this is what I over heard at a Bathurst 1000 party that got my ears ringing.
See what is getting around the traps in the Police service is just say an off or on duty Police officer is driving his or her private or Police car on a public road and in a split second they unfortunately get zapped by a speed camera for speeding and they know that they have been busted what they do is accelerate and pull over the first car that just happen to be in front of them.
Now they will pull the car over for any reason like Sir/Madam why were you drifting in your lane, or your brake light are coming on and off or whatever stupid or silly reason they can use to pull the car in front of them over so they can get details, times and whatever needed so the off or on duty cop can write his or her letter saying this was the reason why he or she was speeding.
I find this what I heard absolutely disgusting and outrageous that we have a law for the common person and we have a loophole for the Police.
What I would like for the General public to do is if you pass a speed camera and you are not speeding whatsoever and for some reason just after or kms later down the road you get pulled over for whatever reason by anyone on or off duty and they just happens to flash a badge at you and ask for your details which you give him or her ask for his or her name and service number (They could refuse or ask why?), also get details, time, "etc" of the car they are driving and number plate and report them to the CMC (Crimes Misconduct Commission)You never know you could be lucky, See if the CMC investigate and it just happens the Police officer gives them the same excuse (I bet the excuses would be similiar)as they put in their letter to get off the fine the CMC will know that the Police Officer in question is on the nose, and after this message on this forum gets around they might think twice before pulling this swifty again.
Remember all, the way I look at it the Police are not above the law and they should be treated equally like the rest of us.
Now let me see where is the phone number for the CMC.

If perchance the police are trawling this site the idea that it is a simple plod doing this doesn't add up to me whatsoever.

What I personally find far more likely is that a task force at the policy dept is monitoring all negative communication. Most govt dept's have people who do this and often blog under Mary Smith or whatever at the large daily's.

Fortunately these people are often exposed, and then a large number in any specific forum turn on them on mass.

Serves them right.

Going to the CMC (Cleared Mate Cleared) wont stop this alleged trawling or trolling- their job is to create as little embarassment as possible for the QLD govt.

Case in point: CMC heavied 20 previous complainants about Hurley into withdrawing their complaint.

spelling mistake was the reason for the edit in case your wondering

who's worried about spelling mistakes, i'm full of them.

A mate of mine bagged telstra for months and they eventually contacted him and solved the problem. Now all this was on a public forum where a new member joined but was actually someone in the Telstra management