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I have to thank the people who are responsible for this site for allowing abused families to relieve their frustrations when dealing with the Department of Child Safety.

I am another who has had vindictive allegations put against me and my family. Before we knew it the police and Child Safety were knocking on the door falsely accusing me of abusing the girl next door. Absolutely no evidence, absolutely nothing but we stupidly let them in the house to interview us and interview our children and before you know it, they asked me to leave my house, which I did following the police directive. The next day our children were removed from school and taken to a Child Safety office and kept there for a few hours. The wife received a phone call from Child Safety calling her to come to the office as they had concerns that I abused this girl next door and I would abuse my own children, but within minutes the concerns turned to fact and my wife strenuously denied it. But whilst she was there talking, the phone rang and my wife heard the CSO say "Is that auscity idiot at it again is it?" "Whats it saying this time?" "Anymore people put comments on their?" or something very similar to the above. After the wife left with our children my wife contacted me and explained to me the circumstances, that they had evidence against me, which is a crock of shit as they have no evidence as nothing has ever happened.

The wife being good with computers did a search for this auscity, autocity, oscity or whatever but eventually google found it after a while but it was hard and it made very interesting reading. I am not allowed to go anywhere near my house as they have threatened my wife that they will remove my children from home if I even come anywhere near the house.

I have to thank the people on this forum because the next day and thereafter has bought everything that has been said on this forum to life, examples trying to find out where my friends are and I was stupid enough to tell them, so they hassled them, telling them the above which I found unethical, but what was said to my friend is still not known as they also threaten him too if I come there they will lose their kids too. Within days my boss found out about it and I was asked to take some time off, days later I receive a phone call via my mobile from the mother of the child that I was supposed to have abused and spoke to her but she sounded very strange over the phone and my lawyer later warned me immediately that this phone conversation would have been recorded and this is exactly what this forum says, as my lawyer told me, although the law has just been passed, but not yet implemented for phone tapping, the police have been doing it for years with a loophole and its called pre-text telephone call, so the author of this forum is correct, they try to entrap you via a phone conversation. The wife also told that the two times they removed our children from school, once they asked the children would they like to draw some diagrams or pictures or something just to fill in some time, but now I read on this site that they use these diagrams against you and there is a possibility as said here that they are fudging the colours they give the children, are they that desperate to put an innocent man away? There is no evidence, there is nothing, all there is, is evidence of this neighbour who complains about everyone, whose daughter has been continually mistreating our cat and she has decided to retaliate against me all because of what my children did to her. I am lost for words as this is just over a month now but never in my life have truer words been said on this site as to exactly what happened to us.
I would like to ask a question if I may that they told my wife that the children will need professional counseling done by the government due to all the trauma that has happened in the last month but all the kids want is to be left alone.

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Originally Posted by endofdays

the phone rang and my wife heard the CSO say "Is that auscity idiot at it again is it?" "Whats it saying this time?" "Anymore people put comments on their?"


Fucking mole imagine calling me a idiot!
Originally Posted by endofdays

that they had evidence against me, which is a crock of shit as they have no evidence as nothing has ever happened.


DOCS always have evidence that the Police don't have

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I receive a phone call via my mobile from the mother of the child that I was supposed to have abused and spoke to her but she sounded very strange over the phone and my lawyer later warned me immediately that this phone conversation would have been recorded


I bet the number was silent, does you neighbour have a silent number? I bet she was nice to you, I bet she tried to get you to say something like ooooOOOOH what did you do to my little darling, For all to know a PRE-TEXT Phone call is conducted in the Police station where a COP mainly a JAB cop set the phone through a recorder and dials the number and exits the room hoping they entrap you but if there is noting to entrap its a waste of Fucking time. Mind you DOCS will say ooOOh we got him! He said this and that over the phone but like usual DOCS are full of fucking lies and nothing else.

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The wife also told that the two times they removed our children from school, once they asked the children would they like to draw some diagrams or pictures or something just to fill in some time, but now I read on this site that they use these diagrams against you and there is a possibility as said here that they are fudging the colours


Holy hell not the crayons again!!
PLEASE ALL THEY ARE ALL TRAINED TO THINK THE SAME and this is the reason why you will find all these similarities

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I would like to ask a question if I may that they told my wife that the children will need professional counseling done by the government due to all the trauma that has happened in the last month but all the kids want is to be left alone.


professional counseling my arse Do you actually think they care about the children? Its Phishing exercise time to see what they can extract out of the kids to sink you. Mind you they will lower themselves lower than a rattle snake to get what they want, the crayons will be out again! OoooH the dreaded Crayons(I will send you a pm) Remember what I wrote before where they try to put one child against another, nice work isn't it. And when your kids are finish this so called counseling they will say the same rubbish that they say to all "THE CHILDREN HAVE BEEN SEXUALLY ABUSED" and "From the Movie Top Gun, there favorite line is THEY WON'T ENGAGE! ?
Please all to prove these arses are a joke I would have loved to replace my 15 year old daughter at the dreaded time with a professional ACTOR say a smart 15 year old that can really put it over anyone like any typical actor and I bet you my fucking life that this Mob whoever you go to will say the same rubbish,, ooOOh the children won't engage!! ooOOh she has been sexually abused.
Fuck you could bring you dog with you and those fuckwits would say the same rubbish.
zealots, zealots, zealots, zealots, zealots zealots, zealots .
Again please read everything myself and others have added in this forum and write the important bits down on a piece of paper.

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They're so stereo typed aren't they? They have no choice as they all follow the same manual that make
them very predictable.
I bet I hate gov you would like to educate every family in Queensland about them and that alone would fuck up docs and the cops.

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Just an update.

The cops came to our house last night to see if I was their which i wasn't and whilst there the wife rang me on the mobile and spoke to me.
The wife let the pigs walk through the house although if she refused they could not have entered the house and the reason she done this was to have sufficient time to ring me whilst they were still there.
She asked these general duty or hwy cops whats going on and they didn't know as all they were asked to do was to check if mr whoever is residing in the house.

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Troopers.
As I was swimming thru this bullshit with DOCS, I undertook a polygraph test. and Yes, I past this test and deemed I spoke the trust.
DOCS with only lieing words written only in their files, use this to murder your life and family.
Maybe the polygraph wont stand up in court, But! That polygraph is the best proof I can give, compare to DOCS fake words of corruption.
That polygraph test, Even DOCS cant denied they FRK'd up,but! will fight it with only their corrupted words of lies.

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I bet they wouldn't take a polygraph test not that they would be allowed as its only wishful thinking.

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Polygraphs aren't used as evidence in any court of Australia, and aren't used by DOCS either. Polygraphs are very easy to fool apparently.

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Yes polygraphs look good in movies or on current affair shows like Today Tonight or ACA.

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Aye, But we live in a technology world, Where Cops have devices to investigate the facts and the truth.
So to also DOCS should also apply the same.Use the technology to seek the truth.


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Originally Posted by endofdays

I have to thank the people who are responsible for this site for allowing abused families to relieve their frustrations when dealing with the Department of Child Safety.

I am another who has had vindictive allegations put against me and my family. Before we knew it the police and Child Safety were knocking on the door falsely accusing me of abusing the girl next door. Absolutely no evidence, absolutely nothing but we stupidly let them in the house to interview us and interview our children and before you know it, they asked me to leave my house, which I did following the police directive. The next day our children were removed from school and taken to a Child Safety office and kept there for a few hours. The wife received a phone call from Child Safety calling her to come to the office as they had concerns that I abused this girl next door and I would abuse my own children, but within minutes the concerns turned to fact and my wife strenuously denied it. But whilst she was there talking, the phone rang and my wife heard the CSO say "Is that auscity idiot at it again is it?" "Whats it saying this time?" "Anymore people put comments on their?" or something very similar to the above. After the wife left with our children my wife contacted me and explained to me the circumstances, that they had evidence against me, which is a crock of shit as they have no evidence as nothing has ever happened.

The wife being good with computers did a search for this auscity, autocity, oscity or whatever but eventually google found it after a while but it was hard and it made very interesting reading. I am not allowed to go anywhere near my house as they have threatened my wife that they will remove my children from home if I even come anywhere near the house.

I have to thank the people on this forum because the next day and thereafter has bought everything that has been said on this forum to life, examples trying to find out where my friends are and I was stupid enough to tell them, so they hassled them, telling them the above which I found unethical, but what was said to my friend is still not known as they also threaten him too if I come there they will lose their kids too. Within days my boss found out about it and I was asked to take some time off, days later I receive a phone call via my mobile from the mother of the child that I was supposed to have abused and spoke to her but she sounded very strange over the phone and my lawyer later warned me immediately that this phone conversation would have been recorded and this is exactly what this forum says, as my lawyer told me, although the law has just been passed, but not yet implemented for phone tapping, the police have been doing it for years with a loophole and its called pre-text telephone call, so the author of this forum is correct, they try to entrap you via a phone conversation. The wife also told that the two times they removed our children from school, once they asked the children would they like to draw some diagrams or pictures or something just to fill in some time, but now I read on this site that they use these diagrams against you and there is a possibility as said here that they are fudging the colours they give the children, are they that desperate to put an innocent man away? There is no evidence, there is nothing, all there is, is evidence of this neighbour who complains about everyone, whose daughter has been continually mistreating our cat and she has decided to retaliate against me all because of what my children did to her. I am lost for words as this is just over a month now but never in my life have truer words been said on this site as to exactly what happened to us.
I would like to ask a question if I may that they told my wife that the children will need professional counseling done by the government due to all the trauma that has happened in the last month but all the kids want is to be left alone.


This is like dejavu..... I sympathise with you, do they do this to everyone?????


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Yes WantsJustice, everyone! Just some are lucky and thankful they still have their kids, while others have to fight like dog crazy (hello me!) to get the custody returned and don't think just because the kids say and beg and plead and half hurt themselves that they want to go home and suffer parental separation issues that this is acknowledged.

If anything it is used against the parent even further as 'trauma from a life time of abuse.'

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Originally Posted by WantsJustice
Originally Posted by endofdays

I have to thank the people who are responsible for this site for allowing abused families to relieve their frustrations when dealing with the Department of Child Safety.

I am another who has had vindictive allegations put against me and my family. Before we knew it the police and Child Safety were knocking on the door falsely accusing me of abusing the girl next door. Absolutely no evidence, absolutely nothing but we stupidly let them in the house to interview us and interview our children and before you know it, they asked me to leave my house, which I did following the police directive. The next day our children were removed from school and taken to a Child Safety office and kept there for a few hours. The wife received a phone call from Child Safety calling her to come to the office as they had concerns that I abused this girl next door and I would abuse my own children, but within minutes the concerns turned to fact and my wife strenuously denied it. But whilst she was there talking, the phone rang and my wife heard the CSO say "Is that auscity idiot at it again is it?" "Whats it saying this time?" "Anymore people put comments on their?" or something very similar to the above. After the wife left with our children my wife contacted me and explained to me the circumstances, that they had evidence against me, which is a crock of shit as they have no evidence as nothing has ever happened.

The wife being good with computers did a search for this auscity, autocity, oscity or whatever but eventually google found it after a while but it was hard and it made very interesting reading. I am not allowed to go anywhere near my house as they have threatened my wife that they will remove my children from home if I even come anywhere near the house.

I have to thank the people on this forum because the next day and thereafter has bought everything that has been said on this forum to life, examples trying to find out where my friends are and I was stupid enough to tell them, so they hassled them, telling them the above which I found unethical, but what was said to my friend is still not known as they also threaten him too if I come there they will lose their kids too. Within days my boss found out about it and I was asked to take some time off, days later I receive a phone call via my mobile from the mother of the child that I was supposed to have abused and spoke to her but she sounded very strange over the phone and my lawyer later warned me immediately that this phone conversation would have been recorded and this is exactly what this forum says, as my lawyer told me, although the law has just been passed, but not yet implemented for phone tapping, the police have been doing it for years with a loophole and its called pre-text telephone call, so the author of this forum is correct, they try to entrap you via a phone conversation. The wife also told that the two times they removed our children from school, once they asked the children would they like to draw some diagrams or pictures or something just to fill in some time, but now I read on this site that they use these diagrams against you and there is a possibility as said here that they are fudging the colours they give the children, are they that desperate to put an innocent man away? There is no evidence, there is nothing, all there is, is evidence of this neighbour who complains about everyone, whose daughter has been continually mistreating our cat and she has decided to retaliate against me all because of what my children did to her. I am lost for words as this is just over a month now but never in my life have truer words been said on this site as to exactly what happened to us.
I would like to ask a question if I may that they told my wife that the children will need professional counseling done by the government due to all the trauma that has happened in the last month but all the kids want is to be left alone.


This is like dejavu..... I sympathise with you, do they do this to everyone?????


Put it this way.
It took a child a few words no evidence even the police picked the child was lying (in the Brief which i have a copy) contradiction, nothing added up but my lawyer still said they will charge you and I said on what! he replied on the word of one child + he said they just about always charge everybody on these matters since the 93a was introduced and so they did charge me (courts full of these cases).
The Committal is a joke, as the defendant does not show any evidence at all as you're there to see what the crown has which was NOTHING!!! a 93a bit of toilet paper written by a child at the child's own house with the child's mother over the child's shoulder. MIND YOU IN ANOTHER CASE THE MOTHER WROTE OUT THE STATEMENT AND IT WAS ACCEPTED, WHAT A CROC OF SHIT, the fucking child was 15.
The Old GOAT the Magistrate wakes up! ooHHH he was snoring he says,,, "quote" You are committed to stand trial!.
Mind you the Magistrate reminded me of the Judge GORDON BROWN IN BOSTON LEGAL.
Do you know that the crown cannot drop the charges not unless the child parents sign off, I bet most don't know that.Do you know that the prosecution doesn't like running cases like the above as they have terminology for it and I won't say the word here. Do you know they like delaying cases like the above

There is a lot of things the Public has not got a clue what goes on in a court room but I do! BIG TIME!!!
I think this alone answers your question about do they do this to everyone????? you bet they just about do and one day late in 09 you all will know how I found this out and its Legal JusticeForALl as you will be able to do it and not break the law until they change or try to change it.

The System stinks as now its designed that once a child puts a complaint in even if no evidence is found and even if they the police find evidence against the child and they suspect the child is lying of something doesn't add up and because the slut mother puts pressure on JAB and DOCs and you stuck the wind up DOCS the monster DOCS puts pressure on the Police to charge you and at the end of the day you still get charged and all of these cases go to a unnecessary non STOPPABLE expensive no money back TRIAL!!.
PLEASE READ PROMINENT LAWYER SITES IN BRISBANE THEY WILL SAY THE SAME.

THIS IS HOW IT IS
YOU"RE CHARGED and its passes the buck all the way until the jury says not guilty (mind you you have been in court at least 20 times from charge to trial, plenty of mentions)and once the jury says not guilty the prosecutor shrugs his or her shoulder passes the info to the charging cop on request and the charging cop say well at least we tried to convict him but we Didn't know the things the defendant knew about your child that you withheld from us the police, Your child needs help as the evidence in the court proved it, Why didn't you tell us this before?, why as a mother did you lie to me a police officer.
So whats happens is a friendly cop to the mother becomes not so friendly to the mother.

ALL I CAN SAY IS FUCK THE LOT OF YOU THAT BOUGHT CHARGES AGAINST ME AS YOU ARE NO BETTER THAN THE CORRUPT COPS DOWN THE GOLD COAST WITH THEIR DODGY WARRANTS.

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corruption is riot on the gold Coast, half the child safety freaks were police themselves.....there is no such thing as an honest cop.......only thugs with a license to do their own thing.......and they do......we even have a child safety officer "team leader" acting as a legal advisor in the Southport courthouse.....an ex cop,and JP to boot...has she been shafted there because of the complaints?
I want her charged......and her adversaries.
maybe we ought to name them all here and see how many of the same names appear? mmmmm interesting idea.

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No we can't name em here but later on I know of someone that I meet during my court visits and he has just moved back home to Russia and he is opening his own site where he is going to name, shame and stick pictures of these scum DOCS CSO's.
Now this is disgusting end I don't believe in it but if people want to upload pics they will be welcome.
The site will be hosted just outside Russia in one of its dead spots and will be untouchable, that untouchable that they cannot even stop the most disgusting web sites in the world that come out of there.

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i'm back at work now and i get a visit from docs and cops just to see if i'm still in the state.
they just came to ask a stupid question which i found odd as they could have come to where i'm staying for that but no you scumbags you had to come to work now i have the workers asking what going on.
also they raided two of my friends houses to see if i was there and they warned my mates wife if i come to this house to visit them when the kids are home we will take your kids off you.

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another thing i just found out from the wife is she overheard a conversation about me where the cops said is he using a high profile lawyer
does anyone know what that could mean.

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Oh endofdays, please don't jump at their bait of going off...b/c that's what it looks like they're trying to do by going to your place of work and most likely try to have you sacked etc. . .how do they find these things out about work area's etc...and now friends and threatening them...

Stick it in your rear Child Safety...I hope this all turns around and bites you's all in the butt!

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and if you went to the police to take action for harrassment....they laugh at you.......keep up the good fight...sooner or later they will all be exposed....and wont that be a great day for children!!!!!

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Yeh for the innocent and truthful ones...but for the ones taught to lie to get back at others over adults vendetta's, they get believed but my kids are called liars when they were bruised by departmental workers by being grabbed to be thrown in a room b/c they tried to run away...

Isn't that abuse? I did less, not even physical, for the so-called reasons to have them removed from me....

Great day for parents and families alike I say!

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Originally Posted by kickemout
maybe we ought to name them all here and see how many of the same names appear? mmmmm interesting idea.


Naming people, CSO's, police or otherwise, is not a good idea. What will it achieve exactly by doing this? Releasing personal information about them on the internet will only make you as bad as the people who have wronged you. Two wrongs don't make a right, or so they say.

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but it seems to be acceptable for them to throw our names around and continue to harrass those making a stand.....it would be interesting to see how many times the same names come up.....this is nothing to do with being vindictive, its about making these abusers accountable......all their peers do is move them to another dept.......is that right?

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Originally Posted by endofdays
another thing i just found out from the wife is she overheard a conversation about me where the cops said is he using a high profile lawyer
does anyone know what that could mean.


YES!
If you turn up in court with a Legal Aid Lawyer today (mind you some are good but as some have told me some are not to be desired) the Police just say Hummmm. But If you turn up with say a high or very high profile Lawyer like say Terry O'Gorman well I think the police will take the case a little more seriously with less monkey business and there is nothing more the Police don't like than tackling someone like Terry O'Gorman and other high profile Lawyers.

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Originally Posted by LovingMyKids
Yeh for the innocent and truthful ones...but for the ones taught to lie to get back at others over adults vendetta's, they get believed but my kids are called liars when they were bruised by departmental workers by being grabbed to be thrown in a room b/c they tried to run away...

Isn't that abuse? I did less, not even physical, for the so-called reasons to have them removed from me....

Great day for parents and families alike I say!


DOCS like using their magic word against the lots of us DENILE !

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Names are allowed to be mentioned but with no slander or defaming of that person, in other words name calling etc...but you are able to tell the truth of a situation...BUT IHate GOV DEPT may not want this here on this site but if people have blogs etc...names are allowed to be mentioned, published etc...it is well within the law! As long as the truth is being told.


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For the moment we don't need to put names but once this other guy gets his site up and puts a link on aus-city well I can't stop someone putting links on this or thousands of other sites directing you to his site to views picture of some of the whores from hell.

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Originally Posted by kickemout
but it seems to be acceptable for them to throw our names around and continue to harass those making a stand.....


You said it!!

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I have two years of dairies, letters , incidences with independant witnesses, that so far no body has been gain to look at, and those that have , have all said this case alone would turn the gov upside down.
I have always been honest and have no need to lie....bottom line my main concern is not just for my own grandchildren, but for any child, each and every time i hear of a child further traumatised or has died at their hands my heart bleeds, so I wont give up and when appropriate, I shall name every dept, emplyee or agnet that had a hand in it all. then others may realize they are not alone .....what is the saying....one brain= intelligence, two or more and we have geniuses......it is a good appetiser alright, because till I found this sight, I too thought i was alone. And my support is here with all of you.

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Hello,

Yes that's right you are not alone in this. Just make sure you have very closely documented and journal everything, which it sounds like you have.

Will talk on here more later today.

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Originally Posted by kickemout
but it seems to be acceptable for them to throw our names around and continue to harrass those making a stand.....it would be interesting to see how many times the same names come up.....this is nothing to do with being vindictive, its about making these abusers accountable......all their peers do is move them to another dept.......is that right?


They don't publish your personal information on web sites, in news papers etc. I don't agree with you, I think there is vindictiveness there regardless of if it's making them accountable for what they have done. You're angry, hurt and upset about what they have done to you (and rightly so) and you want to make them accountable for what they have done to you and the children that have been taken from your care, but this is fuled by vindictiveness.

I just don't see the point in naming and shaming is all.

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Imagine if Child Safety named every client that they have ever had on a web site, only using first and last names and where they are from. Imagine the turmoil that would cause! Imagine the uproar of angry and upset people for having their information posted on the internet and linking them to Child Safety. I'm sure that the innocent parents who have had dealings with Child Safety would be angry enough, but so would the guilty people who abuse their children.

Just a thought...

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but they have their own in-government list of names that goes round all the departments.....that is breach of confidentiality in itself.......

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Originally Posted by kickemout
but they have their own in-government list of names that goes round all the departments.....that is breach of confidentiality in itself.......


Actually they don't. They have ICMS system for all Child Safety offices in QLD to access and information about clients and families is stored on there. They don't share lists of names or information about people with other government organisations. The only time that information is shared with other government organisations is during the investigation if further information is needed to complete the investigation or if information that Child Safety have involves other departments such as Centerlink and Department of Housing.

So no, it's not a breach of confidentiality.

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Am a bit old in the teeth to believe that one.....they may not be on a legal basis, but they are when it comes to covering their butts.....too many morons have access to private documents, in all gov depts...they are one and the same.From my own experience they most certainly are.

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Hi,
I get phone calls from docs workers asking me about such and such ( a shared client) I then ask docs to put their concerns in writing and then email them back the answers. I inform the client and I paste it all into the file and make an entry.

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Well what I write here is coming from someone who knows how Child Safety works, so when I say that they don't have a list with client and families names on them that are posted around on all government department's walls etc, then they don't. Yes information is shared and I'm sure that there are some workers who do the wrong thing, but the polices are there and they are very clear.

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Originally Posted by thisisgood
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I get phone calls from docs workers asking me about such and such ( a shared client) I then ask docs to put their concerns in writing and then email them back the answers. I inform the client and I paste it all into the file and make an entry.


You're right thisisgood. With your area of work they will ring and ask information about a client. However, if you don't know the worker by name and haven't had anything to do with them before, you can request that you call them on the direct office number and ask for that CSO so you can verify that they are who they say they are. This protects yourself from giving any information at all (no matter how small it may be).

Getting the CSO to put their concerns in writing is a good idea as well, and really, it's the way it's supposed to be. The phone call should be just to let you know who they are and that they are after information about a mutual client and that they will be emailing/faxing a request to you.

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