@roy4hire, it is true that people have to sing up now, UBI knows about this, I mean, although the signal is still FTA, UBI has done something to the boxes so every time (started in November) someone aligns the dish to Optus B3 and does an update channels 30 to 39 says the program is not authorized, the Latino package starts on channel 38, the only way to get UBI send an update to the box is by subscribing.<br /><br />I just want to know why they have done this to the Spanish community; the Arabic package is not affected by this, well until it gets encrypted that is.<br /><br />So that's what Maury is talking about, UBI wants $49.95 Activation fee plus the first month $59.95 so pay $109.90 and you get the channel cleared, so they starting charging for something that was FTA (TVE) and still in test (TVC)<br /><br />Let's see what happens next.<br /><br />Merry Christmas to you too roy4hire and everyone else.