yes Mr Gwn method season interface is very successful and it works on most boxes like Nokias, humax etc and some are even using dialup but this hogs your line and typical dial up it drops out all the time, and I have been reading for the ones that can't get ADSL there is always ISDN. Its VERY reliable, it never drops out, Net and phone at the same time and now Bigpond has made an unliminted plan too.