I have been on forums for many years and the guys that use these forums definitely don't understand what a forum is about. <br />I am a member of two Holden forums, yes Holden as in motor cars. On this forum all they do is bag, criticise anything that Ford does, yes Fords are cheating, they have stolen Holdens gearboxes, and so on and so on, what I am trying to say is, if you are in a Holden forum, that means that most members are Holden fanatics, do you get the picture? Now, if you go to the ford forums, all they do is bag Holden and all Holden are cheats and they dig up anything Holden does wrong, then you have the Holden and Ford forums together, which end up as a shit fight.<br />I think some of you guys have forgotten, this forum is called United Broadcasting International and Pacific PBS Private forum, hello!!!! can you read what I just said? If you think we are biased towards UBI, again, read the forum, this forum is for UBI, Not for anything else, although I do allow other pay tv talk. Some of you guys are puzzling, I was asked by Satfreak once to start a TV Plus forum, but why should I? Also, I need permission of the company first.<br />Again, I am biased towards UBI, but at the same time, I am neutral when it comes to ethics and personally I don't give a flying duck who has got what. Some of you guys are behaving very childishly, lets all wait for 12 months then make your comments to see who has what <img border="0" title="" alt="[Confused]" src="images/icons/default/confused.gif" /> .

When you baned me, you asused me of posting lie, you wanted more proof that UBI DONT HAVE ANY RIGHT for any of the Balkanks channels.<br /><br />You got your proof now, and you baned Satfreak?!<br /><br />Why is that?<br /><br />You openly accusing cheaters and thiefs called UBI.<br /><br />You got your proof now, everyone does.

Last warning!! the reason i banned satfreak has NOTHING TO DO with what UBI are doing, its over another matter that i warned him via PM 3 times before.<br />Now you have been warned for the last time Go and defame the other forum, the owner David Cottle has been notified.

OK<br /><br />Can rest of us know why he is baned, and why you are going to ban me?<br /> <br /> <small>[ 19. December 2004, 07:07 PM: Message edited by: ja ]</small>

Again it has nothging to do with those Balkan channels its over another matter that i ask him not to do which he did.

If it was me I would boot out at least 4 of them.<br />Fred tell me you doing some upgrades soon on the forum, any hints!.

You can see that you upset most of users here by baning him, can you explain to us why is he baned?<br /><br />And why will I be baned?<br /><br />PS<br />Maybe I should ask is it allowed to ask those questions here?<br />I dont know, everything we say is reason for baning!

ja i have been talking to satfreak for a while like plenty of things that have nothing to do with you.<br />ew_289<br />Yes changes will be new members that join aus-city for using the UBI and PBS private will have to use a correct provider email address otherwise you will be only allowed to view Aus-city but not UBI and PBS private, yes the latest in upgrades.<br />so you naught boys out their if you play up and you re join Aus-city, aus-city will only accept the Major players<br />like "BIGPOND" "OZEMAIL" "SWIFTEL" "OPTUS" "PRIMUS" ETC!! no Yahoo hotmail or other Shit email address, and if you don't like it bad luck have a nice day.

Good one, I could just Imagine Satfreak joining auscity again and using his correct email address.<br />But why not!.

80% of email users do not use their ISP email addresses because its very hard to switch them to your new ISP if you change your ISP company.<br /><br />Many ISP do not even ofer webmail, so you have to use Outlook which is most vurnable to virus attacks and most unsafeemail softvare - this and first reason are two main reason why people are using email service providers like yahoo or hotmail etc.<br /><br />Yahoo and hotmail are well respected and widely known email service providers, safe and easy to use.<br /><br />Only reason for doing this is that you want to control more tightly what people say here and promote this thug company called UBI.<br /><br />There is no other reason than that.<br /><br />You can not tell people which email to use, you can not tell people to put their real names in the forum, what is the next??????<br />You are gona ask us our bank acount numbers?!<br /><br />What a sh*t and censored place this has become, all thanks to the one person and his dictator policies - Debono!<br /><br />Cant you see what are you doing, you do not alowe people to post anything which is not pro UBI!<br /><br />Ban me now if you want, I dont care, I've taken screenshots of all those relevant topics so you can not serve your lies to webmaster of this site.<br /><br />BYE<br /> <br /> <small>[ 19. December 2004, 07:40 PM: Message edited by: ja ]</small>

Phil this is very childish. If you think that your attitude is "PRO-UBI" then you have just done THE OPPOSITE. I may have been a single insignificant customer to UBI but I have many that rely on my advice.<br /><br />I hope to see more rational people on other more tolerant forums!

Phil,I don't know what to say<br />For now I will stay on this Forum and not<br />point to move to an other Forums,because any<br />move doesn't help UBI and an other companies<br />It is only my opinion<br />Regards

Staying here and get brainwashed every day will help UBI or TV+?!<br /><br />I dont care about them, we should care about us, how is that going to help us as theirs customers?<br /><br />I really dont see how this brainwashing can help me or anybody else.<br /><br />Move on, world is not about only one forum or only one moderator.<br />Thanx God for that.<br /><br /><br />PS<br /><br />Subject of this topic is great.<br />"Wake up"<br />we are, its time you wake up to.<br /> <br /> <small>[ 19. December 2004, 09:59 PM: Message edited by: ja ]</small>

Ja!I agree with you<br />It is remaid me my Country ussR in 1960 -1986<br />when only for one wrong word against communism<br />party you could have 10 years in Siberia,but<br />you know what happened with them<br />Phil took me from the forum before,because of <br />my poor English and i contact David<br />Yes,Phil, I sad to you before -You can't treat<br />ppl like that and you can do now with me again,but<br />it work agains UBI and I will fix it<br />I stay,Because it is MY RIGHT TO BE ON THIS FORUM<br />Regards

you can stay here just behave or your out, it simple<br />can you understand that, we have over 700 members on this forum alone its only the same 3 that cause the problems let them go to there own forum and others will do the same as what they have done here.<br />there is a saying QUOTE ,,,, DO NOT DO TO OTHERS THAT YOU DO NOT WANT TO BE DONE TO YOURSELF.<br />Do you read my Private messages Vlad 79 ??? NO you don't because if you read the ABUSE I copped before I became like this you would do the same.

Heeey!<br /><br />How come no one called me to join all this fun and games?<br />Just my luck <img border="0" title="" alt="[Frown]" src="images/icons/default/frown.gif" /> <br />Ooooo, looks like some has been flexing their muscles and pulling rank too <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /> <br />I demand a replay! <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> …now where is that reset button?<br /><br />What I’ll add to all this is…<br />When rats are hungry and no food is around they start eating each other! Your enemy is not Phil or Satfreak, UBI or TV+. You are your own worst enemy for allowing providers to “bend you over the table” and have their way with you! You even pay good money to have this done to you <img border="0" title="" alt="[Big Grin]" src="images/icons/default/grin.gif" /> <br />Most of you are oblivious of with what respect and courtesy “customers” do get treated out there in the rest of the planet (third world countries and Australia excluded). <img border="0" title="" alt="[Roll Eyes]" src="images/icons/default/rolleyes.gif" /> <br />The way Aussie businesses treat their customers is appalling, but it isn’t their fault, it’s yours! You allow it by sitting back and watching things like this happen before your very eyes and you just sit back and watch.<br />You have to fight a war as far away from home so it never comes to your door step.<br />So word of advice…<br />Demand what you want to watch, what quality you like it to be and what price you want to pay for it! Do not accept what they want to shove if you don’t like it and for heavens sake, don’t be a spectator!<br />Sitting back and being complacent have, not won civil liberties nor anything else you today enjoy!

</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">can you understand that, we have over 700 members on this forum alone its only the same 3 that cause the problems </font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">3 making problems?<br /><br /><br />What problem did I make to you?!<br />I become your problem moment you banned me without reason. Every word i wrote than is true and you accused me of posting lies. Everyone can see now with their own eyes on their screens (BNTV) that what i wrote than was true.<br /><br />What problem did Satfreak make here?<br />I could only find most helpful post under his nick!<br /><br />There was no problems here, do not twist the truth.<br />I think you are the problem here, can you see that with your arrogant attitude you made such negativity about this site. That’s my opinion and I’m entitled to have one and to post it here and like Vlad sad IT’S MY RIGHT TO BEE HERE but there is no use because there is no free speech on this forum.<br /><br />Only reason why I can still post here and why I’m not banned is because they wonna show you now how open minded they are.<br /><br />Well, gents its bit late now.<br /><br /> Free speech and new Australia Satelite forum<br /> <br /> <small>[ 20. December 2004, 04:21 PM: Message edited by: ja ]</small>

bye have a nice day !!!

It's not BYE. You wish its BYE, but it's not.<br />I have every right to be here so it's SEE YOU.<br /><br />Have a good evening.

Yes same to you

Another useless post by ja, you and your screenshots,<br />talk about Blackmail, Bye Ja go to the other forum, yes PM the webmaster he waiting for you.

This ja has he ever sent a constructive post yet?<br />Get rid of him what a total waste of space he occupies

Mr. Debono aim of the message boards is to give visitors space and service to post topics or replies to topics.<br />Certain topics require useful post and some other topics (like this one without any reason for existence) require little bit less useful posts.<br />Aim and duty of forum moderator is to animate and motivate users to post and play active roll in forum.<br /><br />Those are my words of advice, words of a man who has at least 20 000 posts in the past few years on my own website and some other forums.<br /><br />So there is no useless post and I'm not PM anyone.<br /><br />Fred thank you for your very useful post <img border="0" title="" alt="[Smile]" src="images/icons/default/smile.gif" /><br /> <br /> <small>[ 20. December 2004, 07:52 PM: Message edited by: ja ]</small>

ja<br />I have been studying your post, some of your posts your spelling is pathetic with your grammar but some is spot on. Tell me Ja is Satfreak really banned from this forum?.<br />Let

Fred you are right, I live in australia only 7 years and i never lerned english in my life before I come here.<br /><br />Here I went to AMES 3 months and thats it.<br /><br />Why is diference in my posts, simple reason, most of my posts before posting them i check them in microsoft office word, some of them, like this one i do not check.<br /><br />For only 3 months AMES my english is not so bad.<br /><br />I'm sorry if it is, but i'm giving my best (you try to check your every post in m. office and you will see how that is time consuming).<br /> <br /> <small>[ 20. December 2004, 08:11 PM: Message edited by: ja ]</small>

Again you serve no purpose except for bringing any forum in disripute, I think its time you go bud because I for one are getting sick of you and your attitude you think you are smart because you can rejoin whenever you want and since you are talking about the Webmaster I will be PM'ing the Webmaster to get rid of you, I also want other members to do the same.

I do not talk of webmaster. Phil started that talk and now you did.<br /><br />I NEVER PM WEBMASTER, go and ask him.<br />I send him an email when I was unjustly banned, sending him a copy of my deleted post (wich was reason for my banning)and I asked him to remove ban. Thats all.<br /><br />Anyway what I think of me it's my problem, I do not force anything to anybody, everyone is free to think of me what ever they want.<br />Again, you can PM who ever you want, its your choice and your "good face".

Same here, I don't often post on this forum But I will send a email to the Webmaster to remove ja, Phils not here by the look at it and this person has nothing better to do than spam the forum with shit!!

Ja! Why you have to be sorry for your Englisn?<br />Please, answer me now-Why?<br />Iam Russian and I am happy here with my pure<br />English<br />Regards

Ja!Let's do this way-you have to stop and<br />you have to use this forum to help UbI and<br />other to bring as more they can ethnick cnannels<br />The russian Mytv+ is now use UBI technical support<br />and I am happy <br />Regards

I will help people to see the truth.<br />Why should I help some company???<br /><br />Only thing I did, I posted 2 months ago that i read on RTS site and BKTV that TV+ has all rights to broadcast them here in AU. I posted that and I was banned!<br />Now two months later, you can all see that I was posting the truth (you can all see on BKTV and TV PINK site what they say, and you can watch that message on BNTV on your tv sets).<br />Satfreak confirmed that and he got banned.<br />I dont know the man, I dont know his name or anything, but I now one thing!<br />I know how he must feel being banned for telling the truth, and now that truth on this forum is called spaming?!!!<br /><br />This is all about that.<br /><br />I'm not pro ubi, im not pro tv+ ... I just hate people being punished for telling the truth.<br />I dont have anything against Phil, or Fred or whoever ... but I do have alot against thievs, thugs, cheats etc!<br /><br />How can't you see that???<br /><br />UBI is telling us and selling us balkan package with channels, but those balkan tv stations run a message on your tv screens and state on their web sites that ONLY tv+ have the exclusive right to broadcast.<br /><br />IS THIS SO HARD TO SEE FOR YOU?<br /><br />I dont care who has the rights, I care who lies, and I do care when people get banned for telling you what you all should see in the first place.<br /><br />If that is called spam, than I'm spamer NO1

Ja! Yes,Phil doesn't know a lot about TV+ UBI and<br />Russian Cnannels<br />Phil! I talk to Moscow and they said, that they<br />will never give The Broadcasting rights to ubi,<br />because UBI is Tarbs,that why TV+ got Russian<br />Channel *Number ONE* and this Cnannel is given <br />to MyTv+ and you personnally ask me to help UBI<br />with Russian Cnannels Remember! I did and you<br />never said to me "Thank you for help", But you<br />took me out from the forum! And about 700 ppl on the Forum and I don't undenstand it is good or not<br />in my opinion is good and no problems,if you don't <br />creat tham! That is my advaice

I just woke up and found the shit storm around here...<br />Ja, please do not play game with the forum and tell the truth only the truth about yourself...<br />I'm very confused who you really are. The only big difference that I can see from your previous posts is your typing/grammar mistakes. Sometimes, you are who you really are but most offen you are your replacement who is probably someone good in typing...<br />Quiet frenkly, It is not possible for someone to learn english with such good grammar @ AMES courses without any background or long term support... <br />Please, make it clear and tell the truth...<br />I would like to know if someone is using this forum to create shitfight between ppl based on their preferences..

Jeezz mate is that a personal attack or what...<br />Fsking mate, most people onhere are from an overseas background, you expect 100% of the people to have proper spelling.MAte I was born here and i cant spell for SH*T let alone type properly..<br /><br />I think its o.k to shoot the message but dont shoot the messenger!<br /><br />If phill doesnt ban you for insulting that person then phill has his priorities wrong.Phil are you actually reading these posts.This is how most shit hits the fan....<br /><br />One thing to bag ubi and another to bag someone else on the forum.<br /><br />mixo<br /> <br /> <small>[ 21. December 2004, 07:19 AM: Message edited by: mixo ]</small>

Well I'm back and I see more trouble, sorry for unlocking this thread whoever locked it but I will not be Blackmailed by any of you out there.<br />I see one member now thinks that ja is satfreak, well I never thought of that thankyou.<br />I have been called a dictator, well I now leave the ball in the court of members of this forum, all I need is 5 other members to say I'm sick of the post from ja and I will remove him for GOOD and I don't give a shit what he does on the other forums as I have informed the owner about this possible ja,Satfreak connection and I'm sick of it. Other members have complained to me about ja and have emailed me about his post and have already asked me to remove him so its not only me thinking this way. The ball is in your court.

Mixo. you got it wrong MATE. I'm from overseas same as many others on this forum. No, it was not a personnal attack... It was purely seeking the truth about someone acting weird on the topic and defending others for some points even the other parties involved does not want to share the reason...<br />I'm a member of this forum no matter what you think. I do not like ppl attacking each other with no base on the issue like what you did for my post. There is no insult towards anyone here if you read it carefully. All I want, him to tell the truth about himself and clear all wrong opinions for his standings...<br /> <br /> <small>[ 21. December 2004, 08:01 AM: Message edited by: fsking ]</small>

i for one would like to see ja kicked out of here everytime i see new posts on this forum now is from him most of the time and nuthin good to says always the same old DRIBBLE over and over and over and over ( well u get my point ) again same old crap nuthin useful wateva his said has been said many times before and he just keeps dragging the same old crap and repeating the same shit over and over again <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <br /><br />ive kept quiet for a while now but enough is enough his making this forum into his own little playground <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <br /><br />i say ban kick wateva just get him out of here im getting fed up with this crap <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" /> <img border="0" title="" alt="[Mad]" src="images/icons/default/mad.gif" />

I agree. This forum is for people to share "helpfull" information and not abuse each other.

I dont know who ja is I really dont care. But if he insults anyone on this board then he has lost me, that goes for anyone.<br /><br />If he is talking dribble so be it.No one is going to listen to him anyway.But because of other people and myself giving him/her the limelight and attention the more credit we give them..<br /><br />Laser I dont think its up to you to ban him, no matter how much you dont like his posts.It's up to Phil...<br /><br />All I am saying Is write what you want as long as you not attacking anyone, from my point of view it just becomes counterproductive and the forum goes to the Shitehouse....<br /><br />Sometimes we forget why we are in here in the first place...<br /><br />mixo

Phil! Let'do piece!<br />Once you abuse me about word Funny,I admitt my mistake and said to you -I am sorry-<br />Tell me now-what means-word Moderator<br />Regards