LOL, well well. Funny thing too, the RCA cables I'm using are courtesy of Dick Smith Powerhouse. I wonder whether I should direct the UBI installer to them for ownership permission, if I am forced to give up my MDS box to avoid a fee that is 'blackmailed' to me, and then be asked for the cables that have never had anything to do with the former TARBS.<br /><br />Like suggested I'll call UBI first, but if I hear the same unlawful and unjustified garbage from the Customer Service team, my next call will be to the ACCC. No doubt about that. For the record I am not a pedantic person, but I will say that UBI are not doing a very good job at earning trust, and getting rid of the bad name that TARBS achieved, leaving me no choice but to NOT have very much trust in them.<br /><br />RATLSNAKE